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    flatpak remote-add flathub-verified --subset=verified https://dl.flathub.org/repo/flathub.flatpakrepo
    
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    [–] librecat@lemmy.basedcount.com 57 points 7 months ago (20 children)

    I love flatpak but if you aren't using the AUR on arch what's the point?!

    [–] Humorless4483@lemmy.world 22 points 7 months ago (1 children)

    Wait people don’t just install arch to say that they use it ?

    [–] KISSmyOSFeddit@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    I love Arch but I hate installing and configuring it.

    [–] rollingflower@lemmy.kde.social 12 points 7 months ago (1 children)

    I might have something shocking to tell you. There are distros with good defaults!

    [–] KISSmyOSFeddit@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    Can you recommend a rolling release distro that has good defaults for hyprland or sway?

    [–] rollingflower@lemmy.kde.social 3 points 7 months ago

    I can recommend a semi-rolling distro ;D wayblue has some defaults, but I have not tried it. There also is a hardened version of it under the secureblue images. Although I think the maintainer has horrible control issues, I cant deny that the product is near perfect (apart from opinionated Chromium enforcements and some hacky parts like LD_PRELOADing a different allocator) and use the kinoite variant daily.

    [–] drambdaudi@lemmy.today 2 points 7 months ago

    Personally I've been enjoying Garuda with sway.

    [–] Hawk@lemmynsfw.com 2 points 7 months ago

    I cannot.

    Endeavour OS is great but it’s just arch.

    Gentoo with oddlama/gentoo-install is nice too.

    [–] Ooops@kbin.social 3 points 7 months ago

    But that's okay as it's rolling release and unlike other distros you only need to do it exactly once...

    [–] 737@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 7 months ago (1 children)
    [–] Darorad@lemmy.world 16 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    I mean most of it works for every distro, not just arch.

    [–] 737@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 7 months ago (4 children)

    I really like Arch in general, I'd use it without the AUR too. Pacman is great, the repos are nice and girthy, the install process is fast, no bloat. Why wouldn't you use Arch?

    because i want to trigger arch users

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    [–] ManniSturgis@lemmy.zip 4 points 7 months ago

    Other distros suck tho

    [–] rollingflower@lemmy.kde.social 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

    The Arch repos, being quick, rolling, not restricted legally or being upstream of some corpo distro like Fedora or OpenSUSE etc

    Idk ask Steam?

    [–] Petter1@lemm.ee 2 points 7 months ago

    There are people that choose flatpak for some apps and the AUR for other apps I heard from a friend 🌚

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    [–] fl42v@lemmy.ml 29 points 7 months ago (1 children)

    Meanwhile flatpack: (unverified)

    [–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 8 points 7 months ago (1 children)

    They specifically only added the repo with verified apps

    flatpak remote-add flathub-verified --subset=verified https://dl.flathub.org/repo/flathub.flatpakrepo

    [–] rollingflower@lemmy.kde.social 1 points 7 months ago

    Which is not needed but a good bonus. VLC and others are still unverified, even though very well packaged.

    But I dont care about VLC anymore haha, Celluloid has Wayland support, portals, MPV configuration and is better for watching movies. Not for music though.

    [–] MonkderDritte@feddit.de 22 points 7 months ago (5 children)

    Flathub doesn't have the apps i need from AUR.

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    [–] infeeeee@lemm.ee 20 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    If an AUR package wants to install 137 python dependencies, I usually search for a flatpak instead.

    [–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

    Why is this the case? Have I been installing stuff wrong my entire life?

    [–] infeeeee@lemm.ee 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

    Beside what @fatihozs@mastodon.social wrote:

    • If the package wants to install an awful amount of dependencies it means those dependencies are only used by that package on my system. Flatpaks contains all dependencies, so the required disk space would be similar to the flatpak.
    • My feeling is flatpak install time is quicker in this case, to install 1 flatpak vs 138 AUR packages. I never measured it though.
    • I only do this if an insane amount of dependencies needed. Some dependencies are normal, if more than 50 than I think AUR is not an ideal way to distribute a software, or also include a -bin package.
    • If no flatpak available I still install the 137 dependencies, so nothing wrong with that, it's simply the way I like to manage my system.
    [–] fatihozs@mastodon.social 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

    @pineapplelover @infeeeee No, some people just don't want to install tons of packages just for an application they want to use to. The more package means the higher chance for system breakage. It's better checking dependencies and pkgbuild before install

    [–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 3 points 7 months ago

    Yeah but I thought if I installed it through AUR natively then it would be better since if other programs need those same dependencies, I wouldn't have to install them again.

    [–] devilish666@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

    Personally i like chaotic-aur because it's already pre compiled
    The only aur packages on my is system is stacer-bin (the only cleaner i trust other than bleachbit)

    [–] rollingflower@lemmy.kde.social 2 points 7 months ago

    Stacer for the win!

    [–] Petter1@lemm.ee 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

    You can remove dependencies after install, at least in yay, I never do tho.

    [–] infeeeee@lemm.ee 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

    That's install dependencies (in PKGBUILD they are called makedepends), python programs usually need them for runtime (depends in PKGBUILD). On the main page of a package they are listed together, but on the PKGBUILD they are separate

    [–] Petter1@lemm.ee 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

    😁 I know (well that about two types of dependencies)

    That python dependency seem more a upstream issue, not a AUR issue, isn’t it? I mean, if I install the same app from another source, it still needs those dependencies, isn’t it?

    [–] Thcdenton@lemmy.world 7 points 7 months ago

    I just hate snaps lol

    [–] uis@lemm.ee 7 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    I don't care about flatpaks, overlays have everything

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    [–] taanegl@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago

    haha also nix... because I horde dependencies.

    [–] PINKeHamton@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    I have just had bad experiences with flatpack so I don't want to use it and the aur has the stuff I need and flatpack dose not

    [–] taanegl@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

    I've had nothing but good experiences with Flatpaks/Flathub and bad experiences with AUR/nixpkgs.

    Fedora also has it's own Flatpak repo now with it's own runtime.

    [–] rollingflower@lemmy.kde.social 2 points 7 months ago

    Same. Ubuntu AND Fedora Libreoffice, SciDAVis and more where broken, not the Flatpaks.

    Flatpak is really meant for the big GUI apps. No problem with small distro packages really. It just takes off the huge burdens of maintaining distro packages for like Libreoffice, which is as big as the Linux Kernel.

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