they, like everyone else, can see what's peering right over the hill, and it's not a cushy cold war career, it's a "i really could die, cold, bad, and ugly doing this shit right now"
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Yeah, I'm not too keen on a military career.
I mean also why would someone go to the military when the same education can get them a better paying job?
In Germany an officer makes about 4k before taxes after his education finished (increasing over time and with benefits adding up). So that is 48k in a year or a bit more than the median income. For someone with a masters degree. With an engineering or IT degree you can find better paying jobs in the private sector.
The main advantage is that you already get paid while studying, but this is offset by the difficulty later moving from a military to a civillian career, where others have a ten year headstart on you.
On the other hand it is difficult to find a partner and start a family if you are living in a military camp.
Shit pay, broken equipment and someone who failed in civil life shouting at you... no thank you
Why would I fight for any of these assholes?
This is a lot of the reasoning. I left the army in 1997 after 17 years. Should really have stayed on for my 22 to get the full pension, but was so disillusioned that I couldn't stay. My future was looking like Bosnia, Belfast, Basra and BATUS (UK training area in Canada - nothing wrong with that though).
This is the best summary I could come up with:
This week, French Armed Forces Minister Sébastien Lecornu presented a talent retention plan to incentivize military personnel to remain in uniform.
For countries relying on professional armies, the challenge is to make the armed forces attractive — something that's difficult to do in times of low unemployment, fierce competition from the private sector and widespread use of remote working.
But the problem is that the terms of service just aren’t that attractive, with chronic overtime, months-long absences from home and missed recuperation periods commonplace.
“The issue is not recruiting but retention, we need to retain also families,” Admiral Lisa Franchetti, the U.S. Navy’s chief of naval operations, said at a conference in Paris earlier this year.
In Germany, as part of efforts to beef up national defense, the government wants to get its armed forces headcount to 203,000 by the early 2030s — but recruitment is only growing slowly.
The Bundestag’s special commissioner for the armed forces, Eva Högl, has said that reinstating some form of conscription is one way to turn things around, but targeting women is a more obvious move to arrest the decline since potential there is “far from exhausted,” the lawmaker wrote.
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