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[–] Flyberius@hexbear.net 70 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

I'm a beekeeper. Fuck this stupid "humanity fuck yeah" bullshit. We trick the bees into staying in the hive. They do not accept or know anything about us stealing their honey. I work very hard to ensure that they don't leave the hive via swarming. I participate in bee eugenics by controlling which queens I allow to continue laying, executing those that are not laying enough, laying too much, or producing offspring with bad temperaments. It's a constant battle against their will to be free.

I'm a bee slave owner.

[–] newerAccountWhoDis@hexbear.net 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, don't bees only leave via swarming? I haven't heard of a honey bee colony voluntarily relocating

[–] Flyberius@hexbear.net 7 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

They swarm as part of their natural cycle of colony reproduction. They do it a lot. The hive will be producing a bunch of new queens, and when one of them is ready to hatch the incumbent queen leaves with about half the worker bees in search of a new home.

The new queen is born a day or two later and becomes the head of the old hive. She will go on mating flights for the next two weeks or so and will start laying after about 3 weeks.

HOWEVER! Bees dont just lay one new queen cell. They lay loads. So that new queen does one of two things, it either goes around the hive and actively kills the other unhatched queens be stinging them (Queens don't die when they sing), OR she decides to do a swarm of her own, taking half the bees of the already halved hive with her. In some cases this can become a bit of a chain reaction, with multiple swarms happening day after day (this happened to me last summer with one hive). The result is that the original hive becomes unviable and dies due to a lack of workers and no laying queen to replenish the work force.

As for bees leaving voluntarily, I believe it does happen if conditions in the hive are bad enough (i.e. Exposure). Though they will stay put through a lot of shit, to the point of the hive dying.

[–] birthday_attack@lemm.ee 65 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Many beekeepers want to lessen the chance of "swarming," where the bees decide to move their hive somewhere else, by clipping the queen bee's wings. So instead of protection money, it's more like the bees got their kneecaps busted in after a visit from Big Tony.

[–] MechanicalJester@lemm.ee 13 points 8 months ago

Well historically...kinda. Honiused to be Spring harvested because what was left the colony didn't need to survive winter. Now we take more and feed them sugar or corn syrup Which is awful.

[–] Obonga@feddit.de 25 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Meh, Honeybee Queens get their wings clipped. Also honeybees take away the food from local polllinators, killing of wild bees in the process.

[–] photonic_sorcerer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 8 months ago

Not always, not everywhere. You can keep bees without clipping the queen's wings.

[–] douglasg14b@lemmy.world 8 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Mhm, anthromorphizing insects now.

[–] ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago

I mean whether they actually understand the dynamic is a moot point. They're still willingly staying. They would leave if resources weren't plentiful or if conditions were dangerous.

[–] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 7 points 8 months ago

So... Bees are capable of understanding taxation on a level exceeding that of any libertarian?

[–] kokopelli@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

I never thought about it but yeah, that’s exactly what is going on here whether the bees realize it or not

[–] fox2263@lemmy.world -2 points 8 months ago

Vegans hate this one simple ~~trick~~ arrangement