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[–] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 134 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Morals of a seagull fucking got me

[–] ThePyroPython@lemmy.world 43 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Seagulls are vicious and vindictive bastards.

[–] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 31 points 8 months ago (2 children)

An amoral, thieving, all-terrain plaguebearer.

[–] AlligatorBlizzard@sh.itjust.works 15 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The real winged rats. Pigeons are generally nice enough, seagulls will swoop down and steal your whole basket of french fries out of your hands.

[–] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 11 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I would never besmirch rats. Rats have compassion and intelligence and humor. If I wanted to compliment a seagull then I would call it a winged rat.

[–] AlligatorBlizzard@sh.itjust.works 9 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I like rats, and I knew I'd rightly get this response. But a NYC rat would definitely steal a whole pizza from you if you gave it the opportunity.

[–] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago

Rats learn behavior and it's echoing NYC.

[–] Zerush@lemmy.ml 7 points 8 months ago

Seagulls are smart motherfuckers

[–] zqwzzle@lemmy.ca 56 points 8 months ago (2 children)

So what I’m hearing is they’re sea huskies

[–] perishthethought@lemm.ee 18 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Do huskies have the morals of a seagull?

[–] zqwzzle@lemmy.ca 4 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Do most animals choose between right and wrong, or are they acting on instinct?

[–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 42 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Huskies are definitely able to discern between right and wrong. They just don't care.

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 11 points 8 months ago

Can confirm. My husky knows what she's supposed to do, she does what she wants as long as I don't say anything.

[–] Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml 6 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

We used to think that animals couldn't feel pain now we know plants can. The whole idea animals just go off instinct is wildly outdated and comes from the junk science era of fascist human supremacy. They probably do have morals and they definitely don't align with ours.

That being said insects have a pretty good case for being instinct only considering they live such short lives but then again some bugs can go as far as recognize faces so maybe we're vastly underestimating their capabilities too. Slight tangent, their vision is also a lot better than we give them credit for too, segmented eyes have basically infinite depth of field and the vision quality isn't as bad as one would think.

[–] Pelicanen@sopuli.xyz 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

We used to think that animals couldn't feel pain now we know plants can.

There's a real big [citation needed] on this sentence.

[–] Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml 0 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Scientists: "Plants can communicate damage through a pathway exactly like a nervous system"

Google results: "Plants don't feel pain because they don't have a brain"

sigh I don't know what I expected. Fucking fascists... Sorry, can't cite this one because it goes against the agenda google wants to push.

[–] Pelicanen@sopuli.xyz 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Least brain-broken take. That's like taking an econ class and saying "I'm not seeing any evidence capitalism is a broken failing system"

[–] Pelicanen@sopuli.xyz 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

No, your take is like saying that capitalism is an infallible system, searching for evidence that capitalism is infallible, not finding any, then concluding that it's just the internet being brainwashed by leftists.

[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 8 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I was going to say Sea-Min-Pin but the OP never used "on PCP" as a descriptor.

[–] null@slrpnk.net 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 2 points 8 months ago

Jokes like that risk the health and safety of your ankles.

[–] Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de 35 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, Sea Lions are obnoxious and destructive but not usually malicious. But Seals can be mean just for fun. They would make excellent early 2000s prank show hosts.

[–] TIMMAY@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

Id guess most people think of fur seal pups or something when they think of seals. I think of the leopard seal. Mean motherfuckers

[–] Ephera@lemmy.ml 32 points 8 months ago (3 children)

the intelligence of a toddler

Is that more or less intelligence than a cat?

[–] CitizenKong@lemmy.world 64 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Fun fact, trying to determine if a dog is more intelligent than a cat is nearly impossible because that it's hard to tell if the cat doesn't understand the test or just can't be bothered.

[–] tromars@feddit.de 34 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Wasn’t there a study on cats that concluded something like „cats know when you call their name but just don’t care“?

That's correct. Although all 7 of ours will come when called.

[–] Zerush@lemmy.ml 16 points 8 months ago (3 children)

The cat understand perfectly the test, but think that, if you like it so much, leave me alone and do it yourself. A dog is a pack animal and for this reason it obeys, yes or yes, the leader of the pack, the owner, a cat or felines in general, with the exception of lions, they are solitary hunters and do not have the concept of a leader, A cat sees you as an equal, at most a friend, but not as a leader. This has nothing to do with intelligence, but with the very nature of these animals.

[–] Soku@lemmy.world 25 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] Zerush@lemmy.ml 7 points 8 months ago
[–] ElderWendigo@sh.itjust.works 9 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Cats just require a different approach. But it's far from impossible to train them as long as you adapt, just as you would for any various species of animal. This guy has figured out how to train cats and he's hardly the only one.

Lots of cats big and small are very social, even if they don't form packs in the wild.

[–] Zerush@lemmy.ml 1 points 8 months ago

Yes, cats can form groups when this offers them advantages in food and survival, as is frequently seen in stray cats, but they are anarchic groups, without fixed leadership. Naturally you can train cats, but only if they see an advantage in following what they have learned, they must be convinced to follow your instructions, which is much more complicated than in the case of dogs.

[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)

"Dogs will love you and defend you and hunt with you because you're part of the pack... whereas a cat is a tiny tiger that lives in your house."

-- CGP Grey, Animal Domestication

[–] Tolookah@discuss.tchncs.de 29 points 8 months ago

It depends. If the toddler is trying to actively kill themselves, they are super smart AND fast. On the other hand, I'm told that some cats share a braincell, and if it's not their turn with it, then that's that.

It all depends on the frame of reference.

[–] Zachariah@lemmy.world 16 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] Crackhappy@lemmy.world 11 points 8 months ago

Inclusive or will get you every time.

[–] variants@possumpat.io 17 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I guess that's why sea otters murder and rape seal pups

[–] wahming@monyet.cc 13 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Are the morals of a cat actually any better?

[–] Kyrgizion@lemmy.world 13 points 8 months ago

I was just about to say that all the cats I've known had the intelligence of toddlers and the morals of seagulls.

[–] jawa21@lemmy.sdf.org 10 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Not to mention that seal finger is horrific. Don't fuck with seals.

[–] nonfuinoncuro@lemm.ee 6 points 8 months ago

yeah that's enough internet for me today

[–] Diabolo96@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

The morals of a seagull ??? Now, I am scared!

[–] ProfessorOwl_PhD@hexbear.net 3 points 8 months ago

intelligence of a toddler and morals of a seagull

That's just a dog. Anyone with a dog knows this.

[–] Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

They're cute as long as you're out of ear (and nose) range.