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[–] someguy3@lemmy.ca 73 points 8 months ago (2 children)

“We came to visit Russia as tourists for the New Year on December 27 and met an agent who helped us visit different places. He offered to take us to Belarus, but we were not aware we would need a visa for the country. We went to Belarus where we gave money to him, but he demanded more money. He abandoned us on a highway as we didn’t have the money to pay him,” one of the men can be heard saying in Hindi in the video.

“We were then caught by the police who handed us over to the Russian army.

[–] nulluser@programming.dev 66 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (37 children)

We came to visit Russia as tourists

Boy, my sympathy went to 0 pretty damn fast. Might as well have said they went to Nazi Germany as tourists.

edit: grammar

[–] someguy3@lemmy.ca 23 points 8 months ago (1 children)

There was a whole Olympics hosted by Nazi Germany.

[–] GenEcon@lemm.ee -1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

So Russia's worse than Hitlers's Germany?

[–] emberwit@feddit.de 3 points 8 months ago

Putin's Russia also hosted Olympics

[–] Deceptichum@sh.itjust.works 21 points 8 months ago (2 children)
[–] nulluser@programming.dev 8 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

That's utterly vile, especially considering that India fought against the Nazis during WWII. I can't imagine being one of the soldiers that came back alive and seeing that shit in my own country.

[–] Deceptichum@sh.itjust.works 20 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Don’t forget they fought against Nazi Germany because Britain owned them and forced them too.

Frankly I assume they’d have rather sat the whole thing out and as such I doubt they really cared all too much about a European conflict.

[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 4 points 8 months ago (2 children)

It wasn't just a European issue. They had a name for these types of issues

[–] el_bhm@lemm.ee 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 2 points 8 months ago

Earf, v earf

[–] Deceptichum@sh.itjust.works 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

The

Europe and European colonies plus Japan wanting to join in with European imperialism War?

Or

Europe and European colonies plus Japan wanting to do its own European imperialism after being stiffed last time War?

The world aspect was because Europe decided it owned the world, not because it was the worlds war.

[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

There was conflict on nearly every continent, I'm not saying who started it, just where it happened.

There were based operations in india related to fighting in China and Burma for example.

Frankly this article is an interesting overview. Lots going on

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/India_in_World_War_II#:~:text=British%20India%20officially%20declared%20war,the%20China%20Burma%20India%20Theater.

[–] Deceptichum@sh.itjust.works 2 points 8 months ago (2 children)

During the Second World War (1939–1945), India was a part of the British Empire. British India officially declared war on Nazi Germany

Sure is a lot of Britain in there. Almost like India had no say in the matter🤔

How much of the world war was European colonial powers forcing natives of the lands they had invaded to fight their battles for them? Like I said it was a European war, just because every battlefield wasn’t in Europe doesn’t change that.

[–] KevonLooney@lemm.ee 2 points 8 months ago

You're forgetting the entire Pacific War, which had little to do with Europe. You're forgetting Japan invading China and interrupting the civil war. You're forgetting Japan invading every island in between them and New Guinea.

Your comment infantilizes local groups who used the war to settle local or regional rivalries. Colonial subjects were not idiots being used. They took up sides based on their goals and historical alliances.

[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I didn't speak to the colonial link to England. Keep reading, not all of India was unified on that decision, and the time period played a critical role towards independence.

Further, operations were based out of the country, regarding other theaters of war in Asia. Are you familiar with where India and Myanmar (then Burma) are located?

I get what your trying to do so I'll head you off: colonialism is wrong, and India DID get dragged into the conflict. I'm not contesting that.

All I was highlighting is conflict occurred in the area, and India was involved in several different ways.

[–] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago

They're rolling in their graves seeing how India dehumanizes and treats Muslims. It's a slow rolling genocide that doesn't get much attention.

[–] DarthFrodo@lemmy.world 14 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

I don't know if media coverage and public awareness about the atrocities are high enough in India to make that judgement.

[–] Moonrise2473@feddit.it 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Russia sell oil cheap to India, so they are good?

[–] loutr@sh.itjust.works 5 points 8 months ago

The argument is basically "they've never done anything to us, so we're good". But yeah the cheap stuff must help.

[–] agent_flounder@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

as well have*

Sorry, the power of pedantry compels me. Hope this is of help at least.

[–] nulluser@programming.dev 2 points 8 months ago

Thank you. I knew it looked/sounded wrong.

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[–] Akasazh@feddit.nl 11 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I mean even though the Russian state is utterly corrupt, this recruiting vector seems way to convoluted to be practical.

It might also be that they did volunteer, but made up this story in order to seem the victim.

[–] extant@lemmy.world 10 points 8 months ago

From another comment in here it sounds like someone scammed them into going to Belarus where they didn't have authorization to be and were arrested as criminals and criminals can be conscripts.

Doesn't seem like the Russian government is doing this intentionally as much as they're looking the other way since it benefits them. I wouldn't be surprised if the scammer gets a kickback from whomever in the police is benefiting from sending the army conscripts.

[–] DarkThoughts@fedia.io 16 points 8 months ago

And India still tries not to take a stance.

[–] Pistcow@lemm.ee 0 points 8 months ago

Hey, it was this or work the cruise ships....

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