But they're not just attacking ships supplying aid to Israel. They are attacking whatever passes by them. If it was to support Gaza, why would they have attacked a clearly marked Chinese ship?

[–] Alsephina@lemmy.ml 12 points 8 months ago (1 children)

attacked a clearly marked Chinese ship

Pretty sure they stopped attacking Chinese and Russian ships since they stopped supplying "israel" and co. through the Red Sea after the Yemeni gov told them to. There were a few misfires after that but for the most part they're left alone.

Hell, a br*tish ship misqueraded as a Chinese ship a few days ago to avoid being attacked. Probably why Yemen is ending up hitting a few Chinese ships too.

Regardless, China has condemned the US and UK's bombing of Yemen. As anyone with a hint of morals should.

[–] Bonskreeskreeskree@lemmy.world -5 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Curious how you logic justifies their attacks on western ships, but not the west's response to these attacks.

[–] Alsephina@lemmy.ml 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Yeah western countries and their ships should probably consider not supplying or supporting the genocide.

[–] Bonskreeskreeskree@lemmy.world -4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

And if you don't want to be retaliated against, don't attack ships.

[–] Alsephina@lemmy.ml 2 points 8 months ago

This idiot would've told Jews in the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising to not attack the nazis if they don't want to be retaliated against.

[–] ComradeChairmanKGB@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 8 months ago

Curious how you logic justifies their attacks on Yemen, but not the Houthi's response to these attacks.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 14 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Genocide is fine, tho. 👀

[–] Nudding@lemmy.world 9 points 8 months ago

Why did they attack those ships?

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world -4 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Disrupting trade is punishable by death.

At this scale? Yes. Fucking up global trade at this level hurts people all over the planet. The downstream pain reaches into millions of households.

And if that hurt isn't enough for you, it's clearly terrorism. And your plan is to let it stand because there haven't been any deaths?

[–] Alsephina@lemmy.ml 8 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Damn those ships and countries should probably consider not supplying a genocide then.

Fucking up global trade at this level hurts people all over the planet

That's from the capitalist class hoarding all the wealth. We have more than enough resources to meet everyone's needs otherwise. Know who to blame and direct your frustration at.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 7 points 8 months ago

My plan is to force Israel to stop the genocide.

And they aren't shutting down all global trade. Just ships going to or from Israel. Sanctions, essentially.

[–] clay830@lemmy.world -4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Red sea attacks... so just leave out the US soldiers killed.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 12 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Different group. Turns out, lots of people in that region hate the US!

[+] eatthecake@lemmy.world -7 points 8 months ago (3 children)

So is being gay if you're in Yemen. I can't say i have any sympathy for them. If you attack passing ships you can't complain about retaliation.

[–] Alsephina@lemmy.ml 23 points 8 months ago

Prevents poor country from progressing socially or economically through wars and genocides for decades

Complains about their lack of social progress

Bruh.

If you attack passing ships you can’t complain about retaliation

If you commit and support a fucking genocide you can't complain about having your supplies blocked. Would you not support blocking supplies to nazi Germany either?

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 10 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

>wave a rainbow flag while murdering Muslim children by the thousands

"But why do Muslims hate gay people???"

Israel wrapped itself in a rainbow flag to attract liberal support, but they're a homophobic society. They just do it for propaganda purposes; it tricks idiots into thinking Israel is good and stokes the fires of blowback across the Muslim world.

[–] HandBreadedTools@lemmy.world -4 points 8 months ago

Holy fuck the mental gymnastics on display are Olympic-level, you should try out for the team sometime.

[+] Overzeetop@beehaw.org -8 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (3 children)

Picking a fight with a superpower is generally a poor idea. Killing military members - even in Jordan - might be considered a bit beyond mere commerce.

Edit: I did misremember the attackers in Jordan and thought that was part of the Houthi organization. The Houthi's are attacking US warship(s) in the area, but haven't directly killed an US service members that we know of/yet. The Jordan attack was (now that I've checked again) by one of the groups operating under the Islamic Resistance in Iraq.

My only defense here is that all of these attacks on US and UK vessels (merchant and military) are in retribution for the US support of Israel. And, yes, there are a lot of groups backed by Iran and Iraq who are using the Israel-Hamas/Israel destruction of Gaza as an excuse to lash out at Western powers who (generally) provide support to Israel. My apologies for the error.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 10 points 8 months ago (1 children)

That was a different group. I guess they're all the same to you, huh?

[–] Overzeetop@beehaw.org 4 points 8 months ago

I've edited my post for accuracy, it was genuinely an honest mis-remembering of the attack; thank you for the clarification.

[–] naturalgasbad@lemmy.ca 7 points 8 months ago

All brown people are the same ig

[–] Flumpkin@slrpnk.net 7 points 8 months ago

The US helped Saudi Arabia bomb the shit out of Yemen for a long time (search). I'm not properly educated about this myself but there are war crimes, starvation, a lot of shit. I mean you can't keep up. But to them, enforcing sanctions against Israel creates local support, otherwise they are a pretty bad Islamist regime. The Houthis are also not proxys of Iran. So US bombing them probably helps them too internally.

But there is so much shit going on that it's hard to keep up.

[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 23 points 8 months ago

Dying empire flails impotently in support of a genocide, more at 11

[–] Alsephina@lemmy.ml 16 points 8 months ago (1 children)

This is the fourth time they're bombing Yemen since the Yemeni government started blocking ships supplying "israel"

[–] TWeaK@lemm.ee 9 points 8 months ago (1 children)

4th time since January. The Houthis (not the Yemeni government) have been attacking ships in the Red Sea since October/November.

[–] Alsephina@lemmy.ml 19 points 8 months ago

4th time since January

Ah my bad.

Houthi/Ansarallah are the main Yemeni government though, with over 80% of the population under their governance with popular support. Regardless of whether foreign countries or those supporting the genocide recognize that or not.

[–] N00dle@lemmy.world -3 points 8 months ago

After more than 30 years of dropping bombs on similar groups you would think the U.S.A would realize it doesn't work. The military has become a joke. Things like this just embolden bigger nations. Iran, Russia, North Korea, and soon China (don't believe they want armed aggression, at least not yet).

Let's tell Ukraine what they can and can't do with weapons provided. Meanwhile Israel get to do whatever the fuck it wants bombing civilians to kill a few potential targets. More will just take their place. If Israel wants more weapons and money they should go ask their Russians friends.