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The US is supporting Israel through what we can mostly all agree is a genocide of the Gazans. Clearly, Biden isn't a genocidal maniac, yet he's all in with unwavering support. Why are we doing this? There has to be a logical reason that isn't just "we want Israel to kill everyone in Gaza and take their land a la lebensraum."

We know this is an emotional topic, so please be respectful of each other so that we can have open and clear authentic discussion on the matter.

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[–] gun@lemmy.ml 7 points 9 months ago

Because history is never the result of good or bad intentions, as much as propaganda would try and convince you otherwise

[–] shinigamiookamiryuu@lemm.ee 7 points 9 months ago

The same reason Russia and North Korea are supporting Palestine.

[–] RainfallSonata@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

If it looks like a genocidal maniac, and it quacks like a genocidal maniac...

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[–] shortwavesurfer@monero.town 6 points 9 months ago

To fund the military industrial complex.

[–] ruckblack@sh.itjust.works 4 points 9 months ago

Politics baby

[–] phillaholic@lemm.ee 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It’s really complicated.

Imagine if after 9/11, Bin Laden and al-Qaeda were held up in New Jersey, and had been launching small attacks to New York for years prior. They are intertwined into New Jersey and don’t operate like a nation state. Now imagine the US is the size of New York, and they are bordered by several other countries that basically want to wipe them off the face of the earth so they fund Al-Qaeda to do their dirty work.

Israel is in an extremely vulnerable position, and there’s no great answer. Remember the conflict in this area is practically older than recorded history. Hamas isn’t going to surrender, and obviously aren’t centralized to be taken out.

War sucks.

[–] SendMePhotos@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

That was a very normal sounding response with a wide view while offering little information. I both appreciated and hate it.

How can a body of water stretch so far, yet be so shallow?

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[–] Keeponstalin@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

The history of the conflict is pretty complicated. As far as US support goes, the US can utilize Israel and wars as a destabilizing force in middle east which is beneficial to the Military Industrial Complex, and influence in the region with Hard/Soft Power. Reductively, because of Money and Power.

Following Israel’s stunning victory and occupation of Gaza, the West Bank and East Jerusalem, Washington concluded that Arab nations had moved into the Soviet camp and so increased weapons sales to the Jewish state, including Phantom jet fighters.

Initially as an anti Soviet position under LBJ

Military support for Israel solidified under the Reagan administration which also began a more vigorous diplomatic defence of Israel – particularly shielding it from criticism at the United Nations.

And especially to sell weapons under Reagan

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/nov/16/why-israel-allies-explainer

The US has been supporting the ethnic cleansing of Palestine since the 1967 war and the occupation of Gaza and the West Bank, and that position has led to the US supporting the ongoing genocide in Gaza today.

Biden is also a strong Zionist, so... There's that too

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