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[–] SkybreakerEngineer@lemmy.world 74 points 1 year ago (6 children)

I write these words in steel, for anything not set in metal cannot be trusted.

[–] Scrath@lemmy.dbzer0.com 35 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's a Mistborn reference isn't it? That sentence seems familiar

[–] feannag@sh.itjust.works 22 points 1 year ago

"What's a few words changed here and there among friends?" - Ruin, probably.

[–] NotAtWork@startrek.website 20 points 1 year ago

I am afraid, however, that all I have known - that my story - will be forgotten. I am afraid for the world that is to come. Afraid that Alendi will fail. Afraid of a doom brought by the Deepness.

[–] neptune@dmv.social 18 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Metals oxidize. You need a ceramic encased in a carefully constructed glass.

It's a reference to the Mistborn series of books.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Would papyrus sealed in clay jars in a cave high in the mountains above a dead sea be okay?

[–] neptune@dmv.social 5 points 1 year ago

If you are lucky

[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Tungsten carbide in high-silica glass will probably outlast humanity by a significant margin.

[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Until someone discovers your cache of tungsten carbide and sells it for scrap to be turned into ball bearings and drill bits.

The cap stones of the pyramids were taken for building construction. The rare velum paper with ancient Greek mathematics was bleached and used for daily prayers.

Perhaps the copper complaint survived because it was on worthless dry clay.

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[–] TheMinions@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

I knew this was going to be top comment.

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[–] jawa21@lemmy.sdf.org 44 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 10 points 1 year ago

I thought you would have linked 1683: Digital Data

[–] SpruceBringsteen@lemmy.world 42 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The last one is actually a real example, right?

[–] pirrrrrrrr@lemmy.dbzer0.com 75 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's a real reference.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Complaint_tablet_to_Ea-nāṣir

"Inscribed on it is a complaint to Ea-nāṣir about a copper delivery of the incorrect grade and issues with another delivery"

[–] chetradley@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It worked perfectly 3,774 years later and people still don't want to buy copper from this guy.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 28 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Fun Fact:

Native Americans near Eagle Lake in Wisconsin were some of the earliest metal workers in the world, what is known as the Old Copper Culture. We have copper artifacts from them that are at least 8500 years old.

We have arrowheads, knives, axes, etc, but metal working just... Died out.

The leading theory?

The copper was too pure. Various impurities are what give copper strength, it's quite malleable as a pure metal.

They were doing all this work to make tools not significantly better than flint, so when the easiest sources dried up they just stopped bothering.

The earliest bronze examples are actually made from a copper ore that included arsenic or tin already, and natural ores that include enough of either are quite rare, and they just weren't available to the Old Copper Culture, and without that initial accident of geology they had no way of knowing that adding specific impurities would make the metal stronger, or even a tin mine for it to happen through experimentation.

TL;DR don't be too mean to Ea-Nasir, guy's copper might have just been too pure. Like you've never seen a customer ask for a different product than they actually wanted!

[–] brianorca@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I was just reading about how Michigan had a volcano which deposited large amounts of nearly pure copper, and even some naturally alloyed bronze.

[–] ricecake@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 year ago

Geological activity gouged some crazy deep holes and dumped everything on top. Basically the entire upper peninsula was scooped out of lake Superior, flipped over and dumped on the ground, which is why there's a bunch of metal everywhere up there.

Also some of the oldest exposed stone on the planet. Nothing too useful about it beyond "my, that's a very old stone", but it's a vaguely fun fact.

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[–] chetradley@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

I like my ingots pure. I can mix in the alloys myself!

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[–] fossilesque@mander.xyz 25 points 1 year ago

https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/complaint-tablet-to-ea-nasir has the translation.

What do you take me for, that you treat somebody like me with such contempt?

[–] clay_pidgin@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 year ago

!reallyshittycopper@lemmy.world

There's even a community just for memes about it!

[–] ReputedlyDeplorable@lemmy.world 41 points 1 year ago (3 children)

"I write these words in steel, for anything not set in metal cannot be trusted."

[–] Goblin_Mode@ttrpg.network 11 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I've been re-reading WoA the past week and as soon as I saw this post I was like "holy shit Kwaan is on tumbler!"

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[–] BluJay320@lemmy.blahaj.zone 32 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Bamboozled again by Ea-Nasir

The intent was to give people a sense of pride and accomplishment for making anything useful out of sub-standard copper.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 20 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Future archaeologists will wonder at how 'literally' became defined as its own antonym, and why there were no other adverbs for a decade.

[–] fidodo@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

It's hyperbole

[–] Noodle07@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

This, literally

[–] XTL@sopuli.xyz 19 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Funnily enough, digital signals/data can actually be preserved perfectly and indefinitely because of its property perfect regeneration. Most efficient way to do it is to replicate it before it decays below regeneration. That one star review can outlast any stone tablet if it keeps on being copied.

[–] jherazob@fedia.io 75 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)
[–] apemint@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago

It started as a joke but nowadays more and more old memes and screenshots can only be found in conditions like the last panel.

[–] Olmai@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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Most things last very long if stored properly. People tend to not do that, though. Probably why low-maintenance, high-permanence formats tend to keep the best.

[–] Deceptichum@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago

We could store words on paper indefinitely if we keep copying it to fresh paper every so offen.

Obviously thats not practical or guaranteed for all of future history.

[–] agent_flounder@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Sure. But I thought it was assumed that we were talking about writing that would survive without any additional interaction for extended periods.

If nobody is there to refresh the digital data, tablets, and papyrus, two of these will last millennia, one won't even make two centuries.

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[–] fidodo@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

That would be a good thing for historians so they'll be able to know for a fact that we had nothing interesting to say.

[–] DanComrd@hexbear.net 8 points 1 year ago

Goddammit Ea-nāṣir is at it again, selling cheap copper agony

[–] Steveanonymous@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Full circle

[–] ALostInquirer@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

Now that you mention it, are there laser etching, or engraving tools that may be available outside of industrial applications should one want to record their silly thoughts in a more permanent form?

[–] SpruceBringsteen@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They're not cheap, but you can definitely get a very capable laser set up nowadays that you could etch a non corrosive material with. Some are pretty cool and even are able to etch curved surfaces rather easily on the user end.

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[–] tegs_terry@feddit.uk 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)
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[–] mbgid@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Fast forward 400 years and a new religion gets started when someone unearths the metal blog tablets.

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I imagine that, given enough time, fundamentalist religious assholes will figure out a way to destroy everything, including themselves.

[–] geogle@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Huh? What does this have to do with the price of tea in China?

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