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I guess this is probably going to be the new shitty norm with bait and switch for reviews then nickel and dime afterwards.

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[–] B0NK3RS@lemmy.world 112 points 8 months ago (5 children)

Adding micro transactions after release is bullshit. There should be rules where it needs to be in from release or not.

[–] Bonesince1997@lemmy.world 50 points 8 months ago (6 children)

Right. Some people wouldn't bother with a game at all if they knew there would be this. It's very deceptive.

[–] snooggums@midwest.social 9 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Knowing they were charging for new characters was almost a dealbreaker for me. This would have stopped me if I had known.

[–] Cort@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Paying extra for characters IS a deal breaker for me in fighting games. It's literally pay to win.

That said, I've been playing Tekken since ps1, so I'll probably just pirate this whenever it's available.

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[–] caut_R@lemmy.world 35 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Wait until the reviews are out so people can‘t be warned, and the product can’t be dunked on and then…

[–] GenderNeutralBro@lemmy.sdf.org 18 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Exactly. If they'd announced this before launch, it would've been the only thing anyone talked about. There would have been a huge backlash and I'm sure a good percentage of the community would've dumped the series there and then.

This is doubly scummy. Glad I didn't buy it yet.

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[–] okamiueru@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

If they place something behind MTs, then I completely agree. But, if they want to add more cosmetics that don't exist yet, and they finance it MTs, and at a fair price, it's less unethical.

Announcing it after reviews... Hm. Sketchy at best.

[–] Ilflish@lemm.ee 9 points 8 months ago

If you tried the customisation, it feels extremely bare bones in comparison to Tekken 7. So I wouldn't be surprised if stuff was removed to add to the Store.

[–] mlg@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago (2 children)

TF2?

but tbf that basically invented the lootbox which then made TF2 free to play

[–] TwilightVulpine@lemmy.world 15 points 8 months ago

At least they made it free to play. These games are still charging full price plus microtransactions

[–] Soggy@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

TF2 was a better experience before it went free-to-play. I want a barrier that keeps the hordes of clueless children out.

[–] B0NK3RS@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

TF2 before F2P was one of, if not the, best multiplayer games. It just wasn't the same after that and good community servers died out.

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[–] verysoft@kbin.social 60 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

Just another lesson to wait months after a games release before even considering it.

[–] Vampiric_Luma@lemmy.ca 20 points 8 months ago

Early access paranoia can finally be shared by all~ Yippeeeeeeee

[–] SomethingBurger@jlai.lu 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I don't buy games until the publisher announces it will be delisted.

[–] JoeKrogan@lemmy.world 36 points 8 months ago

Review Bomb it on steam

[–] DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 34 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Fuckers waited until the high praise reviews were in

[–] SomethingBurger@jlai.lu 19 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Gaming publications should automatically retroactively set their score to 0 in this case.

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[–] hatsa122@lemmy.world 27 points 8 months ago (5 children)

Divided? One must be pretty naive if they can't see the move they are trying to pull here.

Can't wait for f2p Project L to break into the genre and become the biggest and most popular fighting game.

[–] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 22 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

I mean you've got people who are defending Bilzzard's newest horse armor bullshit so yeah.

ETA: Yup, got quite a few Hardcore Gamers^TM in the thread defending this BS already with 'it's just cosmetics', all fighting games do it, or won't someone think of the devs, like like they think the developers are getting a cut off the money.

Just sad frogs sitting in the boiling water.

[–] caut_R@lemmy.world 9 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Yeah, you can find vocal people who will play the apologist for just about anything, it‘s baffling to the degree that I wonder if there‘s paid actors on social media in this sense

[–] harry_balzac@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Definitely paid actors. These companies all have social media teams. It's not improbable that they create fake personal accounts to post apologist bs.

They also can buy sock puppet accounts and use those.

[–] Chozo@kbin.social 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, I'm sure Blizzard's really dumping a lot of resources into "shitposting on a Reddit clone with under 30k MAUs".

[–] FooBarrington@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)
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[–] Zonetrooper@lemmy.world 10 points 8 months ago

Gaming "journalism" can't afford outright say "company deliberately tries to hide enshittification of their game" aloud. Might lose that access to selective early copies for review!

[–] Brunbrun6766@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago

Can't wait for F2P game from the company probably MOST known for in game shops??

[–] PapstJL4U@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Project L will not use LoL but Valorant as base.

Riot is a fan of fomo and high pricess.

[–] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 5 points 8 months ago

Bait and switch. That's the move.

[–] Cossty@lemmy.world 11 points 8 months ago (1 children)

What do you mean "new shitty norm"? Companies have been doing that for years already. First time I saw it around 2017 I think. I not sure about the game, but I think it was Call of Duty.

[–] frunch@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

From what i gather, they waited until after the reviews were in. They got a good score, which i guess would have been impacted by the inclusion of microtransactions, and released them after the reviews were in. Sounds like they were trying to avoid the bad press they would have gotten for including them (or perhaps purchases even, from people starkly against the practice)

[–] Poggervania@kbin.social 8 points 8 months ago

Bamco knows bikini skins of their characters are gonna sell like hotcakes.

That being said, I’ll forgive them if they only release a Kazuya bikini skin with jiggle physics for his pecs.

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 6 points 8 months ago

I mean let’s be real here. Tekken was originally based on 50¢ microtransactions

[–] yamanii@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago

It already was, activision and capcom both did that, and no, cheat DLCs aren't accessibility, cheats should be free like they were back in the ps2 days and earlier.

[–] Vipsu@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago

I wish more players would just ignore these cosmetic microtransactions and go with the default skin or at least limit themselves to ones that can be obtained by actually achieving something in the game. Using default skin while outplaying people in competitive games could probably induce some people to make quite salty comments.

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[–] Peffse@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 13 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

No, we're taking about Tekken. DOA has shitty mtx problems of its own.

Badum tis.

[–] pgetsos@kbin.social 5 points 8 months ago

DOA

Badum tits*

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[–] Shade@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago
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