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[–] Donjuanme@lemmy.world 152 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Pc gamers when their 350$ handheld laptop has a bigger library, more backwards compatibility, and cross platform access without any monthly subscriptions.

[–] programmer_belch@lemmy.dbzer0.com 65 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Don't forget the mods, console fanboys only get their approved mods while PC gets the wild west experience

[–] Landless2029@lemmy.world 17 points 9 months ago

Don't forget console commands to work around a bug in a quest. Or summon items. Or respawn accidentally killed NPCs.

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[–] Damionsipher@lemmy.world 36 points 9 months ago (9 children)

I can pirate very easily too - probably saved me about $3k in game costs alone while still having a way larger legit library than 99% of Consol owners

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[–] frezik@midwest.social 97 points 9 months ago (2 children)

PC Gamers: buys $550 Steam Deck

Console Gamers: . . . shit

[–] denast@lemm.ee 28 points 9 months ago

$460 (64gb version + 1tb SD card)

[–] Stovetop@lemmy.world 10 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Let's be honest, the Steam Deck is a console.

[–] UsernameIsTooLon@lemmy.world 11 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

It's a handheld computer. It's more of a glorified gaming tablet than a console. It's no more of a console than a gaming laptop with the same APU.

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[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 82 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] Michal@programming.dev 30 points 9 months ago (9 children)

My PC is better than my console, that's for sure. I have the Xbox 360.

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[–] not_that_guy05@lemmy.world 74 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

I'm just happy I can watch my porn on 4k on the second screen with music, while still playing on ultra in my games. Makes me feel like I am at a bar.

[–] pozbo@lemmy.world 62 points 9 months ago (1 children)

What if my $300 PC is better than your $400 console?

What if it had more utilities than just gaming and streaming?

[–] aphlamingphoenix@lemm.ee 45 points 9 months ago (1 children)

What if my $1500 PC built 5 years ago has been more capable than multiple generations of consoles that have been released since? My brother has bought like 3 XBoxes in the same amount of time and my PC still outpaces it by a pretty wide margin.

[–] Stovetop@lemmy.world 36 points 9 months ago (5 children)

5 years ago

multiple generations of consoles

There has only been one generation of consoles released since.

The Switch successor might count as another generation if that comes out this year, though, and it would also be a sad state of affairs if your PC wasn't more powerful than mobile hardware so that's basically a given, I'll give you that.

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[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 44 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Lowest price I can find for a PS5 is $500

That's less than I've put into my PC since the PS4

Edit: Just realized that the CPU I recently upgraded from predates the PS4.

[–] FakeGreekGirl@lemmy.blahaj.zone 45 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Plus, no monthly fees for online play on PC.

[–] bleistift2@feddit.de 12 points 9 months ago (3 children)

That depends on the game you’re playing, not the platform, right?

Right?

[–] TrousersMcPants@lemmy.world 20 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Nah, you need to pay a monthly sub to play online with every console

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[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 7 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

That's why I only get sp games that are exclusive to Playstation with mine. I mean technically Bloodborne and Demon's Souls have multiplayer but I'm totally fine not seeing bloodstains and messages that say "try jumping" everywhere or having some rando invade me.

At the same time, most of those exclusives are PS4 games so unless you really want the 5 or 6 games that are only on PS5, you could save money and get a PS4.

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[–] jinarched@lemm.ee 35 points 9 months ago (4 children)

PC is cheaper in the long run.

You don't need new controllers or any proprietary accessories when switching console and you can buy games on steam sales (which can be insanely cheaper).

You can also update your pc if you want it to last a bit longer.

I think consoles made more sense back then. If you like your console that's fine, but I'm pretty sure pc is much cheaper and last longer when you consider all those factors.

I know it's a meme, but you don't need $3K for decent gaming PC unless you want overkill performance. If you get components on sale, you can build something pretty good for $600 to $700 (excluding monitor, mouse and keyboard). You just be patient and fool around on pcpartpicker.

[–] zod000@lemmy.ml 14 points 9 months ago (10 children)

You aren't getting a "pretty good" gaming PC for $600-$700, be serious now. That doesn't invalidate most of your other points, but your exaggerations weaken your message.

[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 10 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (5 children)

Here you go, bud. https://pcpartpicker.com/list/N3cVgB

This matches my $2,000+ build from 6 years ago. I still use it today, and I have no plans to upgrade still. It runs modern games at at least 50-80 fps at 4k.

This build is $652.99. It doesn't include windows, but I paid $19 for windows pro, and Linux is free.

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[–] AI_toothbrush@lemmy.zip 27 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Aint heard of no ps5 running linux

[–] Hupf@feddit.de 14 points 9 months ago

ps3 though...

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[–] Casey@lemmy.blahaj.zone 27 points 9 months ago (5 children)

PC is way cheaper long term because you can pirate games

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[–] Overzeetop@kbin.social 26 points 9 months ago

See Also: Apple Vision users after playing Fruit Ninja for the first time.

[–] LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.blahaj.zone 24 points 9 months ago (5 children)

It used to be that you could legit build a PC for fairly cheap, but those days are long gone. Yet another hobby that got gentrified.

[–] otacon239@feddit.de 27 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Definitely not the case. You can easily get all-in-one mini PCs for $400-500 that can play most any new game at 1080p without much issue. Thanks to all the new stuff like DLSS/FSR, you can get away with a lot more for a lot less.

[–] LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 9 months ago (5 children)

Maybe they came back down, but when I looked at parts a year or so ago, the prices were extremely high. Unless you're one of the lucky few who lives anywhere near a Micro Center. There's not even one in my state, so I rely on sites like NewEgg, Amazon, and Best Buy.

I built my first PC for ~$1k in 2017, and it was moderately good. Unless something has changed and I've not noticed, I don't think I could even build that again for that price with the exact same parts.

Or maybe I'm clueless, and you can show me an alternative site that I'm unaware of.

[–] frezik@midwest.social 13 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Depends on your target. The integrated GPUs from AMD these days are very good, and can run a lot of games at 720p pretty well. Discrete GPUs have also come down in price over the last year.

What happened was the pandemic created a supply chain bottleneck combined with scalpers gathering up what supply there was. The issues were worked out by the end of that generation, but then Nvidia released the next generation with prices where they assumed people would just pay that now. That's bitten them in the ass, and there's been a lot of market correction as GPUs sit on the shelf (though probably not enough).

As usual, AMD comes out looking like the good guy by being slightly less shitty than its competition. They also had elevated prices this generation, but kept it just a bit lower. Looking good by being a smidge less bad than Intel and Nvidia is a plan that's worked for them 100% of the time every time in the past, so why change it?

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[–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 22 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Consoles are kinda dying anyways tho. Less and less sales even tho there are more and more gamers.

[–] BruceTwarzen@kbin.social 32 points 9 months ago

They are more and more just mini pc's with ads and paid online service.

[–] Strider@lemmy.world 11 points 9 months ago

Well the last 2 generations of ps/Xbox consoles with mainly PC parts brought that upon themselves. They need to be consoles damn it, not weak PCs.

The switch still stands out with unique features (and pricing).

[–] mastod0n@lemmy.world 21 points 9 months ago

Ah, this again. Maybe we can start accepting other people's use cases? (This goes both ways btw)

[–] Fridgeratr@lemmy.world 20 points 9 months ago

This but unironically

[–] SternburgExport@feddit.de 19 points 9 months ago (1 children)

So we‘re already coming to Reddit niveau?

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[–] Faydaikin@beehaw.org 11 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Yeees, let's shit on people who spend money in their hobby and use their computer for more than just running overhyped games at medium settings.

I am so tired of these attempts at justification for "Console Elitism."

Yes, you bought a cheap shit product because you don't have the money or knowledge to build, or operate, a proper computer. Congratulations, you're part of Sony/MS's primary demographic.

[–] ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world 11 points 9 months ago (1 children)
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[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 9 points 9 months ago

It's the same with a 400€ computer though.

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