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Hello, the only thing from stopping me to fully use Manjaro as my primary daily OS is that pirating on linux is inconvenient. When i install pirated games on Linux they must be really lightweight to support, like Undertale or Papers Please, because WINE uses Vulkan graphics and they are fucking terrible on slightly more heavy games like superhot and shit, this entails having bad frame rate like 20 fps (unplayable). To whoever is using Linux and also pirates games on daily basis, do you also have the same problem? Is there any solution you could suggest me? Thank you

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[–] zeppo@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It sounds like you're more having a problem with gaming on Linux in general, not anything about how you obtain the games. Maybe ask at !linux_gaming@lemmy.world?

[–] 20gramsWrench@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

everyone else is right, the downvotes are unfair but your probleme seems to be fairly linux related.

What are the specs of your machine and how do you launch the games ?

depending ing on your graphics card, it may not support vulkan

If you are not already, try to use lutris, that way you will be able to chose which version of whine and dxvk you are using and get a bit more info on what is happening with your system, I frequently run game from gog on it and they run fine

[–] svamp@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

Lutris and proton-ge works really well for all tour gaming needs.

[–] idkman@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I can assure you this is not the case.

I've tested Cyberpunk 2077 on Ubuntu (not my daily driver) and it works like you're playing on windows. Only downside is that you can't use ray tracing since Nvidia kept that tech proprietary and exclusive to windows for now.

See, Linux doesn't fully supports nvidia gpu, but still I'm having a great experience.

[–] RedWeasel@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

RT works fine with my system, including in CP2077. You just have to enable the flags. RT work on NV and AMD on linux. Even DLSS and DLAA work, minus frame generation.

[–] Monologue@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

have you tried running them with Proton or ProtonGE?

[–] Gush@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Isn't that exclusive to Steam games?

[–] richyawyingtmv@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No

I've installed cracked windows versions of games on the steam deck before, adding them as a non steam game, going to properties and setting them to boot with proton. I even installed a few this way by adding the installer exe as a non steam game and running that in desktop mode, under proton. It's a hassle to find where it installed it after, but it worked for me anyhow

[–] Gush@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Welp thank you for the advice, i will definetly look into that.

Edit: i found a comment by a reddit user saying this:

If you add the shortcut or the exe file to the library, Steam will not spy on you and ban you for using whatever you're using.

If you're adding a third-party/non-Steam game then it doesn't matter because Steam system will see it differently (those games are not recognized as owned or anything similar to that in Steam, because they come from outside of Steam).

For example I have several pirate GOG games in Steam and those work differently than the games I bought on the Steam store or added to my library through the Steam store (those just work differently, Steam just sees it as an extension/shortcut/hub and does not see it the same way as a bought game in Steam).

So i think i'm free to add pirated games as non steam games on the platform, right?

[–] richyawyingtmv@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

Yeah, hasn't stopped me in...15 years? Half my entire library is pirated and emulator shortcuts lol

[–] DrownedAxolotl@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I mean proton is available in the AUR last I checked. Also, couldn't you just use the "add non-steam game" option in steam? I've heard it does sometimes block pirated games, but it wouldn't hurt to try

[–] Gush@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago

Yeah wouldn't hurt to have my account banned i guess, nah

Sound like you have a Linux gaming Problem... Yeah without Whine and Proton it can get a little funky but you can do it.

[–] Synthaxx@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

Either something is wrong with your setup, or your hardware. Make sure that you're running the right drivers and that you aren't accidentally running on your onboard graphics instead of your dedicated GPU.
Check the general Linux gaming boards, and doublecheck by installing Steam and loading up something heavier from your library if you have any.

Having just finished a DRM unencumbered version of Returnal by the excellent "LinuxRulez!" (linux repacks with all the trimmings) i can tell you that what you're experiencing isn't normal.

[–] Gush@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Thank you guys for your answers and advices, i've found a solution thanks to the user named Monologue. An effective and simple solution that i've never thought about since concerned about risking a ban (not the case), and it is to simply add in steam the pirated .exe game file through the "add a non-steam game" button. This resolved the issue about implementing Proton into my wine build, which is very risky and complicated, by executing the game directly on steam. Couldn't give a fuck about the downvotes too

[–] lukas@lemmy.haigner.me 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The downvotes are deserved tho. Blaming poor performance on a low-level graphics API that's specifically designed to outperform Direct3D and OpenGL is about as ignorant as it gets. Not to mention that Vulkan also runs on Windows.

[–] crunchpaste@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Can't see anyone mentioning this, but have you tried the johncena releases on 1337x?

All of them are neatly compressed, don't need Steam and I haven't seen a single one that doesn't work out of the box on Manjaro.

[–] Gush@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

Never heard about this, thanks i'll try and let you know

[–] AndreyAsimow@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I finished max Payne 3, classic prey and put 60 hours in Skyrim on a laptop while distro jumping.

Nothing is impossible when you use Linux.

Good luck!

It is inevitable that there will be a performance loss when using wine, but it is usually quite small. Partially/totally broken games aside, if you have a good pc you won't notice the difference.

So, if the fps of games like superhot (a bit ironic example) are terrible for you, I guess there are two options:
There is something wrong with your setup, for example a gpu with little (or no?) vulkan compatibility, or using the nouveau driver instead of nvida.
Or the small difference in performance makes a big impact on your toaster, so you should use using something like AtlasOS, while eating toast.

[–] ReakDuck@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Funny enough, I once accidentally found a GitTea on the Dark Web (Tor browser, Onion Service) and this gittea had a Piracy Repo for Linux Games and many folders of games with text files of reviews similar to Protondb.com if this Crack worked or not and also added from which crack macker it was.

Reply to me and I try to find it again.

[–] Gush@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Would be cool

[–] Gush@lemmy.ml -2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Guys i would like comments by people who use Linux

[–] atlasraven31@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I have some issues with games but currently play Star Trek Online, Xenonauts 2, and Dyson Sphere Program just fine.

Zorin OS, I would recommend Zorin OS lite for older hardware.

[–] theshatterstone54@feddit.uk 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

As a Linux user who uses AMD hardware and Vulkan and have done gaming on a range of systems, but mostly on Arch Linux and ArcoLinux (a distro based on Arch) it definitely seems like your issues are Linux Gaming-related. I do pirate, and I pirate on Linux, specifically on Arch, and I haven't had such issues, so yes, your problem is linux gaming related.

[–] Gush@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Do you use wine in order to run these games?

[–] theshatterstone54@feddit.uk 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I usually open them through Proton in Steam, using the Games > Add a Non-Steam Game, Menu. From there, I navigate to the exe and it gets added to my steam library. If the game is ripped from steam, remove any files containing steam in them, because otherwise it will identify it as a steam game and that would mean it will show you a Buy button rather than a Play button.

[–] Gush@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Thanks for the advice