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Hate to use the app but many relatives only have one. Is there any privacy hardened versions for Android?

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[–] jeena@jemmy.jeena.net 22 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] chockblock@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Is the fact that you're using a bridge at all apparent to your WhatsApp friends? Or is nothing different as far as they are concerned? Also, does Element have a setting to prevent pictures and video from being automatically downloaded over cellular data?

[–] jeena@jemmy.jeena.net 2 points 1 year ago

They have no idea. And I've no idea if there is such a setting.

[–] imaqtpie@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago

That's really cool, might have to get this for myself

[–] Goldmaster@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There are none. As its Facebook.

You are better of inviting them to Signal. If they know how to use WhatsApp, then they know how to use Signal. It's designed to be as easy as possible, while secure and private.

[–] Virkkunen@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's not how it works on real life. Sure you can invite a handful of people there, but they won't last because their friends aren't there, every one is on WhatsApp

[–] CrypticCoffee@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

Yes, but if the contacts you care about it have it, it's useful for you.

[–] Cistello@reddthat.com 5 points 1 year ago

Beeper I guess It's just Matrix with it's bridges

What do you mean by privacy hardened? The messages are going through Facebook's servers, so there's very little you can do in terms of privacy for your conversations. If you want to limit its ability to touch your things on your phone, track you on your phone, be able to use your phone's sensors, etc., then maybe a Matrix bridge or WhatsApp WebToGo on F-Droid? Honestly, I'm interested in a good alternative, because I couldn't get the matrix bridge working several years ago, and WhatsApp WebToGo has issues staying connected and requires a dedicated WhatsApp phone that stays at home or wherever.

[–] LeTak@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Beeper is maybe an alternative. It is basically a matrix bridge. But not only for WhatsApp, also for signal and iMessage and many more. (Now in Beta, later 10$ a month subscription) https://www.beeper.com

[–] 1bluepixel@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There's nothing about Beeper that makes running WhatsApp through it more private. You're still using the Meta platform, but you're adding a new company in the chain. Your messages from the WhatsApp server get decrypted by Beeper then re-encrypted to be sent to you.

[–] jeena@jemmy.jeena.net 4 points 1 year ago

You can at least remove the aditional company by hosting the bridge yourself https://tube.jeena.net/w/rYhp4ZT5Ykw1aBGqMr62KG

But I don't think OP was askiing for more private just for a alternative.

[–] LemmyNameMyself@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There isn't really an alternetive launcher but you could download a firewall app like NetGuard and block every connection exept g.whatsapp.net

[–] carloshr 2 points 1 year ago

You need to also allow mmg.whatsapp.net and some CDN domains to allow download image and files.

[–] XpeeN@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I use it. It's not great. Basically, you keep a phone at home with WhatsApp installed and running. Then WhatsApp ToGo will connect to it, as though you're connecting from a web browser. And like the web version of WhatsApp, it will occasionally disconnect and require you to resync with the QR.

[–] Im28xwa@lemdro.id 2 points 1 year ago

There are many modified/modded versions of the official client but I don't think they are "privacy hardened" in any way, they do offer a plethora of extra features though

[–] Starfish@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Never tried it but there is Franz and certain plugins for Bitlbee and Pidgin Messenger