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I'm curious about the demographic makeup of Kbin. As we are still in it's infancy I feel that most lean towards a certain way, so I made this survey just now to find out. I encourage you to join in, and you can skip any and every question if you so choose. You can view the results at the bottom of the page.

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[–] Peacemeal12@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

UPDATE: New survey linke: https://forms.office.com/r/Xadjwmt2Gm

The results also has a cool pie chart that you can look it as well as the data.

[–] livus@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

That question about single married divorced widowed, is that how the US still collects demographic data?

It seems odd, given the choices in other sections reflect modern life more.

[–] Peacemeal12@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yes, I was going to add "complicated" and maybe other options, but ultimately I decided not to but maybe I should? This was a generated question so that should answer your question.

I think though if it's of interest of people maybe I should. What do you think?

[–] snooggums@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Single, married, divorced, and widowed are legal concepts that cover everything that can without being overcomplicated with a million personal preferences and 'complicated' is meaningless without every single unique person's context.

Or add a separate question about whether they feel their situation is more complicated than that without muddling clear answers on legal status.

[–] livus@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I guess this must apply to the society you and @Peacemeal12 live in, for sure. But I was actually talking about legal terms.

Where I live, civil unions and common law (de facto) relationships of more than 2 years have the exact same legal standing as marriage.

So the question usually includes De Facto, and Married or in a Civil Union.

[–] snooggums@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If they are the same as marriage then that is a distinction without a difference.

[–] livus@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Depends on the purpose of the demographics.

I think collecting the stats on it first is probably a big part of why we slowly changed our laws to give them all the same rights - when we saw how many people were being affected.

[–] livus@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@Peacemeal12 I wasn't thinking about "complicated" and stuff like that.

It's just the usual legal category for my relationship in my own country was missing and I was surprised it must be still like that in the US.

[–] Peacemeal12@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

I had to switch platforms for the survey, check it out: https://forms.office.com/r/Xadjwmt2Gm

[–] Catch42@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yep, though the single option is often written as single/never married so that it's more clear. We don't have common law marriages (except a few states) so those 4 categories cover every situation, though without much detail.

[–] livus@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We don't have common law marriages (except a few states)

Is that likely to change? I would have thought it would be big on human rights activists' agendas over there.

[–] Catch42@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't think so? I'm struggling to think of how it would enhance human rights. Isn't it the same as regular marriage without the trip to the local court? I always thought other countries had it as a penalty so that couples couldn't use cohabitating but not getting married as a tax loophole.

[–] livus@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

It's a human rights issue because of things like property law, adoption, next of kin rights. Sometimes people (often women) can be left financially vulnerable, especially if children are involved, if their relationship is not recognised under the law.

Couples don't get tax advantages over single people where I live either, so that part's a non issue.

[–] Peacemeal12@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

I had a updated the survey to a better platform, and included more options. :) https://forms.office.com/r/Xadjwmt2Gm

[–] s6original@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I agree with you and I live in the US. I've been single for 20 years...but I was married before that so I'm divorced. I guess you can never be single again.

[–] FaceDeer@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Perhaps a better option would have been "deflowered."

[–] Peacemeal12@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] FaceDeer@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

"Deflowered" isn't an option. :(

[–] livus@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Yeah it's weird that you don't get to be single even though you are.

I haven't been single for over 20 years but I'm also not married or divorced or widowed.

[–] s6original@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

The only way to get rid of the divorce stigma is to get married again. I already used that trick once.

[–] s6original@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The results button results in a 404.

[–] Peacemeal12@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I'm going to mess with the settings to see if I can fix it ASAP. For now I see if you don't select anything and press 'Skip' and then vote it takes you to the results. Thanks!

[–] livus@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't think it is working for me.

I'm in Oceania and the results say no one is in Oceania.

[–] Peacemeal12@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It is not broken, it just completely stopped tallying. Apparently the free version of supersurvey has a limit of only fucking 25 responses, and of course they do not tell you this until you created an account and already sent out the survey and then asks you to pay $90 a month for this shitty webapp that breaks immediately.

I'm just going to have to make another survey; what a bust...

I'll use a better platform for this survey

[–] livus@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That would explain it! I will stay tuned.

[–] Peacemeal12@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

Alright you can check out the new survey :D https://forms.office.com/r/Xadjwmt2Gm

[–] snooggums@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I clicked vote a few minutes ago and it took me right to the results successfully.

Using Firefox in case it is a browser thing.

[–] s6original@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Yes your workaround works around this. Thank you.

[–] Roundcat@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I love how the biggest divider between reddit and kbin demographics is that we seem to actually like Pineapple on pizza.

[–] Flag@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

Whoa slow down, we aint monolithic!

[–] guyrocket@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Education level options are...odd.
Some college, college degree
Some graduate school, grad degree
Etc

[–] Peacemeal12@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

I was wrote this at 3 am leave me alone lol

[–] FirstSeaLord@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I feel like separating gay and lesbian instead of just saying homosexual is cluttering things up. And idk, bisexuality is a thing?

Edit: also, political leanings become somewhat nefarious when I don't know if you're speaking in "American terms" or not.

[–] Peacemeal12@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Sorry I rushed it out after the first poll locked out. I had bisexual before so I'll add it as soon as I can. I wanted gay and lesbian so people who wish to see the divide can do so I was hoping it wouldn't clutter too much and that's also another issue. I knew making this people would question the western and English speaking biases and whatnot but understand I struggle to reconciliate all the considerations while maintaining the data interesting and useful to look at/ digest

[–] FaceDeer@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Bearing in mind, of course, that there's a lot of biases in your sample. You're sampling the demographics of /m/kbin, not kbin as a whole, and you're primarily targeting English-speakers since that's the language you wrote in.

[–] Peacemeal12@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah unfortunately it would be difficult to get a broad census on here. I would've posted in /m/askkbin, but that's explicitly disallowed. The English-speaking bias is a given, and that's why the countries list look the way it does, but kbin is probably vast majority English speaking, frankly.

[–] Eavolution@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I mean ernest is Polish, and I think there are quite a few Poles on here.

[–] Peacemeal12@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

They exist for sure, but the numbers are smaller and English speaking world has the plurality as well as the majority. Honestly I wish I could account for everyone equally as you would be surprised by whose on here.

I hate to lump Europe and Africa all together a well and then separate North America by country but as you can see in the results it's done out of pure necessity

[–] techviator@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Dang, what a bunch of atheist here... we'll all just burn in Reddit and our torture will be ads and posts about Zuckerberg and Musk. 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[–] I_Miss_Daniel@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It appears to be broken. I selected Australian, but it shows as zero in the results.

[–] Peacemeal12@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It is not broken, it just completely stopped tallying. Apparently the free version of supersurvey has a limit of only fucking 25 responses, and of course they do not tell you this until you created an account and already sent out the survey and then asks you to pay $90 a month for this shitty webapp that breaks immediately.

I'm just going to have to make another survey; what a bust...

[–] I_Miss_Daniel@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Maybe try Google Forms? https://alternativeto.net/software/google-forms/about/

Check that it doesn't reveal individual answers first I guess.

Might be a good idea to edit your original post as well, so people don't keep entering data in vain.

[–] Peacemeal12@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

Alright I updated to a new form, just check the post again :)

[–] Peacemeal12@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Yep I've been carefully looking, even when creating this one! They got me good, I'm actually surprised there isn't a free alternative webapp out there for such a simple concept. That is definitely something that I will develop myself in the near future. But so far I found one that has allows to share the result page. So I'm working on it!

[–] Bandananaan@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Age ranges are skewed. Groups range from 6 - 15 years

[–] Very_Bad_Janet@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Race was multiselect but picking more than one answer value did not display in the results. In that case it should've been radio buttons only for that question.

[–] Peacemeal12@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

I had to make a new survey check it out again and it should be fixed!

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