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[–] youCanCallMeDragon@lemmy.world 97 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yeah these fuckin nerds are using logic and thought to understand the world.

[–] ZagTheRaccoon@reddthat.com 19 points 1 year ago

How dare they fixate on topics I think are remedial.

Almost like they are stepping stones.

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[–] Campi@lemm.ee 83 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Just so I understand this correctly, is this a post mocking 20-something year olds by showing topics they believe to be niche, complex, or exclusive to an intelligent audience? And that by understanding these topics they are “propped up” compared to their peers?

[–] BushWizard@lemmy.world 50 points 1 year ago (3 children)
[–] raubarno@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Offtopic: does anyone know the name of this meme or knowyourmeme reference? Thanks

[–] EmoDuck@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Try "Two Soyjaks pointing"

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[–] HappyMeatbag@beehaw.org 77 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Maybe I’m a dork, but I think“correlation does not equal causation” is actually a good thing to keep in mind.

I’m reminded of it every time a news story says something is “linked” to something else. I hate it when the word “linked” is used in this way. It’s often lazy journalism and/or a scare tactic. Saying that two things are “linked” implies a stronger relationship than may actually exist. I find it deliberately misleading.

[–] Nalivai@discuss.tchncs.de 49 points 1 year ago

Almost everything on the picture is a good thing to keep in mind. But the creator of the meme depicted it as a thought of a soyjack so there is nothing can be done, we now should abandon that logic entirely.

[–] exponential_wizard@lemm.ee 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's at its worst when a paper describes how they account for correlation or designed their experiment to confirm causation, but someone doesn't read the paper and says the line anyway.

You don't need to read the paper but don't try to act smart if you can't be bothered.

[–] MBM@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

That and "this is worthless, they only tested 10 000 people" are the worst

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I mostly agree with you, but it's often used as a phrase to shut down further discussion even when there could be an invisible third event that's the cause for the two seemingly unrelated events. It's gets over used by people who want to be quick to sound smart.

[–] PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca 22 points 1 year ago (3 children)

That phrase is used exactly to say that there is a third unseen force influencing both events. It'd be pretty strange to use that phrase to say the opposite.

Typically further discussion of the 3rd event isn't relevant, because they're not trying to find the cause, they're trying to disprove a hypothesis.

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[–] pinkdrunkenelephants@lemm.ee 55 points 1 year ago (10 children)

I don't see anything wrong with any of it. Why is thinking or speaking of any of those things being framed as a negative?

[–] angrystego@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Exactly, thinking and talking about these things is perfectly alright and at 20 they are all quite new to you, so it's very reasonable to be excited about them.

[–] Xkok@lemmy.one 12 points 1 year ago

How dare young people not appreciate the intricacies and nuance of the world? Harrumph! I say.

[–] Leviathan@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago (5 children)

None of those things are negatives, this is just anti-intellectualism. Maybe OP has been corrected by douches in the past. The conspiracy theorist in me thinks OP is trying to normalize shaming critical thinking while finding like-minded individuals.

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[–] Cylusthevirus@kbin.social 52 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Did they just like, throw a bunch of random philosophy bullshit onto a meme? Feels like this was generated by an AI or something lol.

[–] HowRu68@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

Feels like this was generated by an AI

Like the meme says: thats what an AI would say. Lol

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[–] AmoldyBuffalo@sopuli.xyz 52 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I mean, a lot of these things are good things to consider/know about. For example, you do always have to consider that correlation is not necessarily causation. They're not really considering the most deep of philosophy, but thinking is generally better than not thinking.

[–] ProfezzorDarke@feddit.de 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I bet OP thinks that Ben Shapiro qualifies as "thinker"

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 50 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Those people are in their 30s now lol

[–] massive_bereavement@kbin.social 31 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Excuse me, but some of us are already in our fourties thank you very much

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[–] agressivelyPassive@feddit.de 19 points 1 year ago

That's agist prescriptivism!

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[–] raubarno@lemmy.ml 48 points 1 year ago (6 children)

That's popular science. On the one hand, it looks shallow, but that just shows that people are curious, and that's okay.

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[–] sagrotan@lemmy.world 42 points 1 year ago (1 children)

At least they "think" in contrast to the majority of working bots and angry Twitter idiots. I'd rather deal with a person who tries to have a concept.

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[–] WanderingCrow@lemmy.ca 39 points 1 year ago

I'd rather deal with people who had a cursory understanding or passing familiarity of these things, in spite of some annoyance. Than deal with the proudly ignorant.

[–] pythonoob@programming.dev 39 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Sounds like you don't like thought so you make fun of those that at least try.

This sounds like the epidemy of weaponized ignorance.

[–] Gerbler@lemmy.ml 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] ShustOne@lemmy.one 16 points 1 year ago (9 children)

For me the meme is that most of these are the very tip of the philosophy and thinking iceberg. And that's fine. What's not fine is taking those basic concepts and trying to use them as defeaters for everything. I think this is what it's poking fun at.

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[–] Imgonnatrythis@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

OP, please add "epidemy of weaponized ignorance" to the meme!

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[–] x4740N@lemmy.world 35 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Turned this into a list without OP's negative framing on them If people genuinely want to look it up later without a negative framing

Because I see no reason to frame them negatively like op has done as these topics are not inherently negative unlike OP's negative bias of them

And bigots using them doesn't make them Inherently negative either

  • Correlation does not equal causation
  • Language shapes thought
  • Artificial intelligence
  • Stanford prison experiment
  • Iambic pentameter
  • Schrodinger's cat
  • Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence
  • Biblically accurate angels
  • What if we live in a simulation ?
  • Video essay
  • Nuance
  • Plato's cave
  • Infographics
  • Linguistic prescriptivism

Edit: unnoticed typo

[–] PopularUsername@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Just a friendly reminder: The Stanford Prison Experiment was not an experiment. There was no control group, there wasn't even proper procedures set up. It was just some professor off his rocker that had a dumb idea, made shit up as he went along, forced the outcome, then publicized the results. People always compare it to Milgram. This idiot can't hold a candle to Milgram.

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[–] sentient_loom@sh.itjust.works 27 points 1 year ago

Sounds like OP lost an argument and is throwing a clever meme-tantrum.

[–] doleo@lemmy.one 27 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Go ahead and post your intellectually superior topics.

[–] explodicle@local106.com 15 points 1 year ago

Why, the topic of our intellectual superiority of course!

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[–] astrsk@kbin.social 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That’s Broden, Mark, and Zach from Auntie Donna

[–] BadEgg@lemmy.ko4abp.com 14 points 1 year ago (5 children)

This post would have gotten more mileage on Reddit.

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[–] Hazdaz@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

how is this so accurate?

Easy. All these people grew up on the internet looking at the same websites, reading the same meme, laughing at the same threads.

[–] Arsecroft@lemmy.sdf.org 12 points 1 year ago
Universal literacy was supposed to educate the common man to control his environment. Once he could read and write he would have a mind fit to rule. So ran the democratic doctrine. But instead of a mind, universal literacy has given him rubber stamps, rubber stamps inked with advertising slogans, with editorials, with published scientific data, with the trivialities of the tabloids and the platitudes of history, but quite innocent of original thought. Each man's rubber stamps are the duplicates of millions of others, so that when those millions are exposed to the same stimuli, all receive identical imprints. It may seem an exaggeration to say that the American public gets most of its ideas in this wholesale fashion. The mechanism by which ideas are disseminated on a large scale is propaganda, in the broad sense of an organized effort to spread a particular belief or doctrine.

Edward L. Bernays, Propaganda

[–] Dasnap@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

History 'buffs' that only know about the Nazis, Soviets, and the Crusades.

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[–] Creazle@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Is this a picture of Aunty Donna?

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[–] Uphillbothways@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

the brain develops in a chronologically similar fashion among members of the same species. even more so when exposed to similar cultural stimuli. that is correct.

[–] SwampYankee@mander.xyz 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Frankly, I think the Milgram Shock Experiment is more elucidating as to... hey, wait a minute.

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[–] Creyapnilla@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

I guess I missed people rambling on about HYDRAULIC GIRLDICK

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