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TL;DR It was an old Wang system, 286 processor(I think, anyway), with no hard drive, a 5.25" floppy drive, and a lovely green monochrome monitor. I didn't have it long enough to reach the point where I could have identified the actual hardware/specs.

Back in 1993, I was 10, and the internet really wasn't a thing yet(yeah, yeah, I know. But for most of us, the internet didn't exist until the mid-late 90's). You'd probably have difficulty even finding someone in the neighborhood who could tell you what a computer was, nevermind having used one. I was out running around the city, as you used to be able to do at 10 years old, when I passed by some local business/office/who knows I was 10. Big pile of trash out front, waiting to be picked up. When you're a kid, and you're poor, you go picking. Trash picking, I mean. You can get all sorts of cool shit, especially from the wealthier neighborhoods. Maybe it's different nowadays, but back in the day, people would toss out perfectly good toys, bikes, electronics, furniture, and as they became more commom, videogames, computers, etc. A ton of the shit I owned as a kid is stuff I picked straight out of the trash. Even after that, I picked trash for years. Resold a metric FUCKTON of stuff that other(presumably wealthier) people deemed to be garbage.

Back to this business/office/free stuff location, I obviously start eyeing what's in the big pile out front of this place. Among the stuff, I see a big, beige, metal box, a weird looking TV, and something with a big coiled wire hanging off of it. Now, it's not like there weren't computers in movies/TV at that point, and I had just read Jurassic park the same year, so I did recognize, vaguely, what it was. So I start looking at it, poking around, It had a name on it. "Wang". Don't know what that means, but I'm 10; that's hilarious. I decide I'm taking it. Tried to pick it up, and yeah, that shit is heavy. Nevermind the TV thing, and the keyboard. So as you do, I look around for a stary shopping cart, and sure enough, there's never one far away. Grab the cart and start lifting my haul into it, when someone comes out of the business/office/treasure-hoard, and yells "HEY!" Thought I was about to be in trouble, but instead, this guys walks over to me and says "you're gonna need this." Handed me a bundle of wires, and a square envelope, and just went back inside. So I toss that in the cart, and start pushing. And push I did. A shopping cart full of early 90's computer hardware, pushed by a 10 year-old, down the street, on and off of curb, up and down hills, from the other end of the city, is hard work. But eventually, I got home with it. Not to worry though, I only lived on the 3rd floor of a three-story building.

So I get home, and I start unloading my haul, one piece at a time, and start dragging it up the stairs. Thankfully no one was home, so I could bring everything into my room without anyone complaing about what I'm doing. That was also one of the only times I actually had a bedroom, so that worked out. Once I get it in there, I put the big metal box on the floor in the corner of my room, I take my monitor and decide that I'm pretty sure it's supposed to sit on top, so I put that there. The keyboard was next. After I untagled that cursed coiled cable, I obviously checked the back of the monitor, looking for where I need to plug the keyboard in. Figured out that no, it gets plugged into the big metal box. What next? Oh, right, that bundle of wires the guy gave me. It tuned out to be a couple of power cables, and a (what I now would assume) was a VGA cable. So I get to work plugging all of that in, and when it comes to the VGA cable, that's when I realize that oh, everything plugs into the metal box, that seems important. That must be the part that is a "computer." So what the hell is the TV thing? Took a minute, but I eventually remembered my NES, and realized that oh yeah, the box is where everything happens, and the screen is just where you see it. Again, I was 10, and all of this technology was still new to the average person. Give me a break here.

And last up was that square envelope. Would you believe it had a black plastic thing inside? It's really floppy. Weird. What the fuck is this thing? It has a white sticker on it, and some illegible scribbles. Nintendo to the rescue again. This black plastic thing sure does look like it would fit into the slot on the front of the metal box. Oh shit, it did! Now I just have to turn this thing on. How the fuck do you turn this thing on? Spent a while on that one, flipping the obvious big red power switch in the back. Took a while before I figured out there was a second power button on the front. TWO power switches?! What is this nonsense? Whatever. It's on now.

I sat and watched as bright green text started popping up on the screen. Various numbers, and phrases that I'd never heard in my life. Clearly, this stuff could only be understood some secret government agent, or that one kid I read about Jurassic Park, who was obviously like, a genius hacker or something. The slot where I shoved that floppy plastic square sure is noisy. What the hell is it doing, anyway? It loads in just like my Nintendo games, maybe it's a game?! Maybe a game is about to start. It sure was, friends. Maybe the greatest game ever made. We called it... DOS.

Man, did I love that game, DOS. I spent the several hours, typing random shit on the keyboard, as the command prompt did absolutely nothing of interest, since I had no idea what I was doing. But after those couple of hours of typing swears and random nonsense, I finally started to get bored, what with all of the nothing that was happening. And for whatever reason, I thought maybe someone could help me. Or, why not the computer itself? Maybe it will help me. So I typed the work "help", I hit the enter key, and sure enough, something finally happened. Holy shit, it's doing something. It's telling me how to DO stuff.

And so, before this novel goes on even longer, yeah. I found the help menu, and spent many more hours needlessly using very basic commands to create, copy, move, rename, and delete empty files and folders. Truly, I was now an elite haxxor man.

Over the next couple of years, I pulled many systems and parts out of various trash piles, and cobbled together different systems. Many, many different 386 and 486 systems. Until finally, when I was 15, I managed to get my hands on an obscenely slow, but absolute magic at the time, dialup modem, and a pile of "free hours" of AOL.

And they all lived happily ever after... Until social media was invented. The end.

If people like/want to read/discuss such poorly written nonsense, maybe I'll write up some nonsense about other technology-based shenanigans from over the years. And if people would rather make fun of my poor writing skills; fair.

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[–] st3ph3n@midwest.social 20 points 10 months ago (2 children)

My first computer was a brand new Commodore Amiga 600 that I got for Christmas in 1992. I was 10. It was glorious. It had 1MB of RAM with a built-in floppy drive (and no hard drive) and was paired with a lovely 14" CRT monitor at a time when most non-PC home computers were connected to TVs with RF modulators. The difference in image quality was immediately apparent when I went to my friends' houses and played on their Amigas.

My parents were convinced because you could do educational-type stuff on it, but really it was a games machine with a keyboard for me - we never had dedicated games consoles. I played the hell out of it for a few years until we got our first Windows 95 PC around 1996.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Amigas were the shit. In my late teens, I paid for an already ancient Amiga 1000 over installments because there was, bizarrely, an Amiga dealer in the Indiana town where I grew up, just so I could write music with OctaMED. I have lost all of the music I wrote. This is probably for the best.

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[–] odium@programming.dev 19 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (6 children)

First computer of my own was a Macbook air (2013 I think) when I was in middle school. Before you ask my age, I've already graduated college with a bachelor's and could be any of your coworkers.

Tldr; daily reminder that y'all are old now

[–] khannie@lemmy.world 13 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Macbook air

What?!?

y'all are old now

Oh. Yeah. Well I suppose it makes sense when you put it like that.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

So... wait... there are adults. Living adults right now. Who were in middle school in 2013?

And this is legal?

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[–] st3ph3n@midwest.social 10 points 10 months ago

I’m well aware, my body reminds me in new ways every day.

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[–] Zombiepirate@lemmy.world 15 points 10 months ago (5 children)

First one I remember was the Commodore 64.

We used to type programs into it from my Dad's books just so we'd have more games to play on it. When it didn't run, my brother and I would have to check the code again line-by-line.

Also, we didn't know how to write to disk, so if someone powered it off that game was gone.

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[–] gwildors_gill_slits@lemmy.ca 12 points 10 months ago

Commodore 64, probably around '86 or so. It had a tape drive and games would take like 20 minutes to load. Crazy to think about now.

Later on (probably around 1989 or 1990) I got an Amstrad 8086 PC. IIRC it had maybe 1mb ram (pretty large for the time) and a massive 20mb hard drive. I remember playing games like bubble Bobble, the Sierra adventure games and so on. A few years later I got a 386 DX PC and played a lot of wing Commander and privateer, dune 2, LucasArts games and so on.

Ahhh, memories!

[–] GiddyGap@lemm.ee 12 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Amiga 500. Best entertainment ever.

[–] khannie@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago (2 children)

What an amazing first computer to have. Loved my Amiga so much.

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[–] netburnr@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Speak and spell. Learned to speak and spell.

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[–] bhamlin@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It was an old Wang system

Don't make the obvious joke. Don't make the obvious joke. Don't make the obvious joke.

Also, Apple IIGS. Learned C and 6502 assembly. Now I am a menace.

[–] Tippon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 10 months ago

Hey! This is no time for jokes.

OP has many cherished memories of the time they spent cleaning and then playing with a stranger's Wang. I can just picture the look of joy on OP's face when they found the unloved Wang just out there on the street, ignored by everyone else.

I bet OP will never forget the joy that a stranger's Wang brought them 😊

[–] Bwaz@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Sinclair ZX80, built from a kit.

[–] Maco1969@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago

ZX81, couldn't afford games so learned to program, wrote little graphical adventures using a text map.

[–] HulkSmashBurgers@reddthat.com 6 points 10 months ago

Commodore 128, I was ~10 when we got it

I assume my dad got it at a computer store.

I used it to play games and check my math homework. I thought it was cool af.

[–] const_void@lemmy.ml 6 points 10 months ago
[–] 4grams@awful.systems 6 points 10 months ago

Apple 2e I got from my next door neighbor at a garage sale. I spent every moment on the thing until I saved up enough to build myself a 486. After that I was the computer kid so people would give me their old stuff, had a 286 and a 386 that put together from a box of discarded office computer parts. Spent hours sorting through and testing individual RAM chips but was able get it working, I still remember typing up school papers on it and the horrible racket the daisy wheel printer made as it printed my assignments on green and white office paper.

[–] marx2k@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Commodore 64 with the datassette cassette tape drive.

Went through the 64 instruction manual, got to basic, typed in

10 PRINT "HELLO"

RUN

Totally thought the damn thing was alive and taking to me.

That ended up kicking off a lifetime of coding and a career is development that in the last few years transitioned into DevOps.

But back then, even before I got my 64, I knew a dude who had one with a 1541 disc drive and with tons of games, so that got me hooked on the system. I spent so much time there before I got mine, playing GI Joe, Jumpman, Transformers, Agent USA, HERO, Montezuma Revenge, IKARI Warriors, etc.

Random memories of back then are fun..

RUN magazine, Byte magazine, Computer Shopper, Video game and computer entertainment... waiting for games to load lol

I think computers were a lot more interesting when they weren't all just windows pcs. Different architectures, different operating systems, interesting emerging technology that was actually exciting and not just higher capacity of this you already have. Local user groups. BBSes.

When I need to binge that nostalgia my goto is https://m.youtube.com/channel/UCVKDG2vK2FHmg4xYrsqnW2Q

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[–] Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Mine was a Leading Edge Model D, an 8088 PC with 512k of RAM. It was the more expensive model that had a little metal switch on the back that could turn on EGA graphics. My family got it 3rd hand when I was 8 or 9. I mostly used it for making greeting cards and banners (on the tractor feed dot matrix printer) and copying basic programs out of Byte magazine.

[–] TexMexBazooka@lemm.ee 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Man I was maybe 3, and my dad brought home lots of weird equipment because of his job. Those big ole beige HPs with the phat CRT monitors.

I don’t remember specifically what computer I got first because there were several. Some of them down the line were pieced together by disassembling other systems, with and without help from pops.

I used it for lots and lots of unsupervised, unrestricted internet browsing. 2000s tor was a wild place. Saw a ton of shit I had no business seeing, talked to people I had no business talking to, did shit I had no business doing. Amassed a bunch of bitcoin very early on, got rid of the pc. KillMeNow.jpg.

I fully built my own customer with all new parts for the first time when I was like 11. Been on customs ever since then.

[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

That was a fantastic story. There are movie deals made on worse script treatments. Seriously, you could expand it to a book.

[–] Weirdfish@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Mine was a Tandy TRS 80 in the early 80s, which had both a cartridge slot and an audio cassette drive. Most all the programs I had were bootleg tapes though I don't know where they came from, I'm guessing my father through work.

I can remember a few of the arcade clones, Zaxxon, Pac Man, Donkey Kong with a terrible 8 bit version of in the hall of the mountain king.

The two that stand out were a painting program I learned to glitch by fluttering the reset button while it was doing fills, and an ascii adventure game call Nahga or something similar that felt like the biggest world ever.

One day home sick I was using it and vomited an entire strawberry milk shake on it, it was an all in one unit w built in keyboard, and I messed it up good.

Taking apart and cleaning it was my first experience working on hardware and certianly left an impression in me.

[–] shroomaroomboom@kbin.social 3 points 10 months ago

I had a radio shack "trash" 80. But this was in 78-79.

I played pong and space invaders on it.

It also came with a manual that had the computer's commands on it in basic language.

I got it to play happy birthday to you when you turned it on; alas, without breaks between the notes.

At that time, the word 'programming' was not in my vocabulary.

[–] UsefulInfoPlz@kbin.social 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Ti 99 4/a. Got it for Christmas

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[–] stoy@lemmy.zip 4 points 10 months ago

I have no idea of the specs on my first computer, it was built from parts in a random case, ran Windows 3.11, and had a CD drive.

I played Myst, The Gene Machine, Math Dodger, and Sim City 2000 on it.

The first computer I had that I remember some specs for was the machine I had around the time Half-Life was released, it was also built from parts, ran a 233mhz AMD cpu had 32MB of ram, 1,6GB HDD and a 16MB GPU (no idea of make or model, dad brought it home after one of his business trips). I remember being quite confused when I saw a PDA with a 233mhz cpu and 32MB ram, felt wrong that a mobile device should be as powerful as my entrie computer, it obviously used a completely different CPU and OS, but damn it, I didn't know ny better.

[–] itsgroundhogdayagain@lemmy.ml 4 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Some monochrome Mac that I could play Dark Castle on.

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[–] irmoz@reddthat.com 4 points 10 months ago

This was a great read. Thanks for sharing your experience of your first computer.

[–] ultranaut@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

My first computer that was actually mine to do whatever I wanted with was a 286 my dad gave me. I think I must have been 7 or 8 at the time. I mostly used it to play games and write short stories. I remember it had two big floppy drives, a turbo button, and was very noisy.

[–] los_chill@programming.dev 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Mac LC. The family computer. Tried to "overclock" it as a pre-teen. I was a dumbass. Thing still works. But I credit that little tank for sparking the fire.

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[–] FlashZordon@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

It was one of those early Gateway computers that were in a lot of households by the end of the 90s. No clue on the specs, as I was only in elementary school and was only interested in playing CD-ROM demos that came with the computer. But it did spark my interest in computers ever since.

[–] mdhughes@lemmy.ml 4 points 10 months ago

Radio Shack TRS-80 Model I. I first saw one in school, and while the rest of the kids took a turn playing a snake game, I read the instruction card. Hit break, read the program, decided I could do that. Took a summer class (for adults, I was the only kid). Got my own. Programmed a lot. Despite (because of) the limited graphics: 64x16 chars, or 128x48 B&W pixel graphics, there were a lot of games on it, very low barrier to writing your own.

Couple years later got an Atari 800, which is still my favorite computer of all time, and I make retro games or demos for it.

[–] tobiah@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

Timex Sinclair 1983 Senior in High School. Mastered the shit out of that thing. Wrote machine language for it.

[–] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

Radio Shack (Tandy) Color Computer 2.

I was 7, and dad gave me and my brothers a ton of reading we had to finish before we could use it.

It was also the last time he had us read the manual for anything because the first thing we did with it was fire up the BASIC cart and wrote out a program to spit out a never-ending stream of profanity.

[–] Meuzzin@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Mid 80's, Boulder, Colorado. I was 10 Years Old. My Dad worked Graveyard shifts at Coors. He rode a Bicycle to work and back everyday. During his commute, he'd ride right by the Crossroads Mall. One morning, he came accross a ton of electronics and electronic components out in front of the mall, that were there as a result of the Radio Shack burning down the night before. Several employess were sifting through the remains, seeing what was salvageble. Anyways, my Dad was able to nab a Tandy 1000 RGB for $20 (~$500 New), with minor smoke damage. It came with all the bells and whistles. An actual Audio Cassette Recorder for data storage, Joy Stick, and several carted games. The only game I really remember was "Dungeon Explorer". But I did get a few books from the library and learned how to write Basic.

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[–] zeusbottom@sh.itjust.works 4 points 10 months ago

Commodore VIC-20 with a tape drive, modem, and terminal software. My father used it to take distance learning classes from the local community college, learning COBOL of all things, back in 1982. He unfortunately never went anywhere with programming. I used it way more than he did to write my first programs in BASIC. I was 5 years old.

Now I build and run MPLS networks, code in 5 other languages, play lots of video games, etc.

[–] khannie@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

Mine was a Sord M5. A rich family friend bought it for me for Christmas out of nowhere.

16KB of RAM. Absolutely nobody I knew had one. Still, it was an introduction to computing that would eventually result in a lifetime of love.

[–] harsh3466@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Mine was the only legit Apple clone.

Laser 128

A Laser 128, a legit clone of the iic.

I was in late middle school/early high school (can’t remember exactly when we got it). My family had a dj business, and in addition to learning BASIC, I put the entire DJ music catalog into an AppleWorks database, played a TON of zork and Bard’s Tale, and attempted to write my own text adventure game in BASIC that was loosely based on Piers Anthony’s world of Xanth. (I read a ton of Piers Anthony as a kid. In hindsight, ick.)

[–] DLSantini@lemmy.ml 5 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I read a ton of Piers Anthony as a kid. In hindsight, ick.

I read a few of those books at some point. Do I dare look up the Wikipedia page?

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[–] Gerudo@lemm.ee 4 points 10 months ago

Commodore 64. I had no idea wtf this thing was that my grandparents bought. They got a few cartridges and the 5.25 floppy drive. I put a cartridge in and a game came up. I was hooked. I slowly learned basic and how to use the floppy drive. A few years later, we got a Macintosh Performa 450. That was the first "real" computer I got to learn on. I quickly realized Mac wasn't for me and the next one was a Packard Bell with a 150mhz processor. From there I built my own and never looked back.

[–] FerbFletcher@lemmy.ml 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Timex Sinclair 1000; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timex_Sinclair_1000

I was in the 8th grade, I think. Z80 processor, 2k RAM, membrane keyboard. I loved programming on it, because it was a totally new experience. I wanted the 16k expansion so badly. I had to use a personal cassette tape recorder to save/load software; I recall having to find the right volume level, and using white-out to mark the volume knob.

I not only learned programming, but diagnostics. I still have fond memories of that $99 computer.

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[–] hackris@lemmy.ml 4 points 10 months ago

Thinkpad T60. A relative of mine got it from their employer, IBM, as a decommisioned machine that was only used by said relative. I was 4 years old. I played hours of GTA: San Andreas, then about a year later I installed Ubuntu which sent me down the Linux and C programming rabbit hole. I learned so much. Thank you, kind relative (whom I'll not name, not doxxing myself).

[–] voight@hexbear.net 3 points 10 months ago

eMac, age 7. i concerned myself primarily with clarisworks, making nested folders, and age of empires 2. my siblings and i argued about strategy in age of empires 2 a lot. i think i am the worst rts player of all time.

i was very good at deimos rising and otto matic and was the only one of us who could beat them

[–] Carighan@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

I'm 41 years old.

My first experience with a computer was when I was 5 years old, playing Squirm on my granddad's C16 (from tape drive no less!). I got my first own computer - well, own-ish, it was our family's - at 8 when we got a C64, at that time massively futuristic because we had a disk drive!

[–] meyotch@slrpnk.net 3 points 10 months ago

A Tandy Color Computer 1. I grew up in a small town and my first β€˜job’ was hanging out at the local drug store (it had a soda fountain, god Im old) demo’ing the new fangled contraption to local yokels (imagine trying to sell a personal computer to Lyle from Napoleon Dynamite).

The deal was i spent two evenings a week after school giving demos and then I could take the unit home on the weekend.

[–] indigomirage@lemmy.ca 3 points 10 months ago

IBM PC, circa 1982(?)

[–] dotslashme@infosec.pub 3 points 10 months ago

Vic 20. I used it to learn basic programing and play games.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

Commodore 64, carried it all the way through college until I could afford an Amiga 500.

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