I don't understand what the endgame is supposed to be here. In order to achieve its stated goals (demilitarization, denazification, catching their list of enemies), Russia needs to occupy (which they said they won't, which makes no sense). There's no way Ukraine's govt can agree to or implement these demands.

So Russia will in fact need to occupy Ukraine and install a puppet govt. But how the are they ever going to get out of there ever again? That new government will get removed as soon as they leave.

So long term occupation it has to be, which will be a total disaster and that's on top of the sanctions. Russia just fucked itself, no? How does any of this make sense?

[–] TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml -3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Russia will not allow NATO virus to get installed in Ukraine, and let USA create tensions whenever they want. The existing chaos is already there because some unknown elements magically installed Nazism in there, and it totally has nothing to do with the 2 month old UN resolution vote on condemning Nazism, proposed by 16 countries. It is magical that 2 unknown countries voted no, and most of EU abstained from voting.

[–] sasalzig@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I know all that. That doesn't answer how this is supposed to work at all.

[–] TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml -3 points 2 years ago

That does answer, and I see far too many pro NATO apologists ratio-ing me.

[–] TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml -3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yeah, and who attacked Luhansk first? Also, https://twitter.com/ReutersGMF/status/1496718865560076288

[–] sexy_peach@feddit.de 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Wtf, are you serious?

[–] TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml -3 points 2 years ago

Serious about?