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hey everyone. if you want to post links or discuss the Reddit blackout, its aftermath, and what's happening going forward, please localize it to this thread in order to keep things tidy! thanks! we'll see if we need to cycle the thread again before the end of this week, but i don't know that we'll need to

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[–] jinno@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Rest of the week? No.

The answer is until they lower to a more reasonable price and work with Apollo and RIF (at the very least) so that they can keep their apps running while transitioning their users to a new pricing structure that will allow them to not be bankrupted in the short term because of the price adjustment.

[–] Casmael@u.fail 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah I simply don’t understand the idea of limited blackouts in this case. Clearly the only viable option is complete silence until or unless certain demands are heard imo.

[–] Valdair@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

Complete silence is impossible. At best only a tiny fraction of power users are the ones invested enough to care about the impact of what Reddit's doing, and are willing to do anything about it. The 99% of the platform who are lurkers, by and large don't contribute, and just want the platform back open and for everyone else to stop complaining are what's being fought over.

If you shut down enough of the platform - which the power users and mods can do by setting to private, restricting posting, or simply not posting when they otherwise would have - then the lurkers go to the site, see nothing to interact with and leave (or at the very least, spend less time on the platform as there is "less" to do). Over a long enough time span that would have started showing up in a big way. But it wasn't going to happen in two days. If anything, the blackout was so telegraphed and so much news got stirred up that it would make total sense if their traffic was actually not impacted or was even high for those two days (at least in terms of clicks and votes, not posts and comments). The lurkers are still valuable to Reddit though - that's where their advertising revenue is coming from.

People mass deleting their post history will hurt the platform. Some big subreddits staying private will hurt the platform. Some small subreddits staying private will hurt the platform. All of those things can bleed away users and diminish Reddit's usefulness and dominance. Really the ideal outcome is we scare them enough that they pull back to a more reasonable position and things can continue as normal. Maybe Huffman gets ousted and they plan a longer timescale and more reasonable pricing.

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[–] Yewb@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago

I am pretty sure some of my comments about ellen pao spez and how bad of a decision they are making got straight up deleted from reddit alternatives yesterday.

[–] rknuu@beehaw.org 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (8 children)
[–] lovesickoyster@lemmy.one 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

List of hackernews folk are saying their changes were reversed https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36354850-

I can confirm that at least my account that I nuked 6 months ago had all the comments restored.

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[–] dirtmayor@beehaw.org 9 points 1 year ago
[–] Csynthare@dataterm.digital 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I continue to be mystified at this. I couldn't make this many wrong decisions if I tried.

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I think a lot is riding on Reddit's promised rollout of new mod tools. If the new mod tools aren't available before the 1st, or if they're woefully inadequate compared to those of third party apps, a lot of mods are going to be upset. Particularly those moderating large subs.

[–] Deestan@beehaw.org 4 points 1 year ago

A nice summary of why everyone is so angry, by Christial Selig:

https://mas.to/@christianselig@mastodon.social/110572053161618054

[–] ardi60@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago
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