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    [–] h0rnman@lemmy.world 112 points 11 months ago (4 children)

    I know this is a meme /c, but for real, I bought this exact same product a while back. If this is your photo, just be careful about what you put on it. Mine lasted 2 months with a grape vine on it before it collapsed.

    Source: Arch user

    [–] Patches@sh.itjust.works 32 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

    I can't think of a more appropriate time for

    You had one job...

    When a grape trellis collapses due to the weight of... checks notes grapes.

    [–] Lorindol@sopuli.xyz 14 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    Mine lasted a year with grape vine before catastrophic structural collapse.

    [–] jaybone@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    I’m really not sure how much of this thread is a joke. Wouldn’t you just use solid slats of wood?

    [–] h0rnman@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    Lol. The wife wanted something decorative and liked how it looked. Caveat Emptor, and all that I suppose. I knew I was buying from a less-than-quality source

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    [–] Lorindol@sopuli.xyz 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

    One definitely should use solid structures, metal or wooden. The damned thing cost ~10$ and I didn't have time to build a proper support structure at the moment. I meant to use it only as a temporary solution, which I forgot when everything was fine.

    The design of the arch itself wasn't the problem. The interconnecting pipes were only 1-2mm thick, so there was no way it could possibly support the weight of a flourishing grape vine.

    It was marketed as a "rose arch". I guess it could've handled this purpose without any problems.

    Buy wrong stuff, suffer the consequences.

    [–] deadsenator@lemmy.ca 3 points 11 months ago

    Just wanted to say we have one in our yard that has been there for almost 20-years. Previous owner left it to rot. I moved it close to some wild hops and they are covering it completely after two years. Still standing!

    [–] 48954246@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago

    Ha, great tip. I'll keep an eye on it

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    [–] IrateAnteater@sh.itjust.works 62 points 11 months ago (4 children)

    Seems pretty straight forward to me.

    [–] xigoi@lemmy.sdf.org 33 points 11 months ago (1 children)

    It doesn’t look straight at all, there is a large bend.

    [–] robdor@lemmynsfw.com 9 points 11 months ago

    It is straight. There's just a big ol mass somewhere between the paper and us causing some gravitational lensing.

    [–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 10 points 11 months ago

    Should be piss easy if you followed the instructions, but people will just start connecting parts because "how hard can it be". Then they'll complain about how it's broken and how the instructions were bad lol.

    [–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

    Exactly, so why are some people complaining Arch is hard?

    [–] jaybone@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

    There’s a pill for that.

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    [–] Norgur@kbin.social 36 points 11 months ago (1 children)

    Idk what the issue is:

    1. Unpack
    2. Install
    3. ?
    4. It just works
    [–] TheInsane42@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)
    [–] jaybone@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

    This used to involve profit.

    [–] arandomthought@sh.itjust.works 29 points 11 months ago

    It's all there, just RTFM!

    [–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 27 points 11 months ago (1 children)

    Hopefully this simplified manual will end all complaints that Arch is too complicated.

    [–] KISSmyOS@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

    I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Arch is in fact GNU Arch.

    [–] xlash123@sh.itjust.works 8 points 11 months ago

    Most likely this is Aluminum+Arch

    [–] jaybone@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

    I use arch-0.0.17b-x86-amd64-noarch.rpm from the snap store.

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    [–] Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 25 points 11 months ago (1 children)

    There sure is a lot of screwing involved in Arch ...

    [–] abraxas@sh.itjust.works 17 points 11 months ago

    From my memories of the Arch linux labs in college, no there isn't...

    [–] ikidd@lemmy.world 21 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    Well, you see, the internet is a series of tubes...

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    [–] palordrolap@kbin.social 18 points 11 months ago (1 children)

    Makes sense to me.

    My only concern is that pipe c is shown as having two different shapes: straight and slightly curved.

    Based on the fact that the design requires that a and b be different, there would undoubtedly be the same situation for the four slightly curved c pipes. That is, there would need to be two "c2" pipes and two "c3" pipes in the set rather than just four more of the same c pipe.

    That makes me think the diagram at the bottom was made before a decision to cut costs and/or simplify. Four regular c pipes will undoubtedly be cheaper and logistically simpler to manage for both shipping and user construction than having those two extra pipe types.

    It was, of course, relabelled to match the supplied parts, but the hints of the original design still remain.

    [–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

    Wow you are too hardcore Linux user for me to grasp what you mean. I suppose pipe is the new sound system though. But why the need for so many?
    I wasn't even aware that level of abstraction was possible when talking about Linux, not even Arch.

    [–] palordrolap@kbin.social 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

    Pipewire? It's very new to me and can't say I know much about it, not that I knew much about its predecessors either.

    ...
    (But putting the silliness hat on...)

    The pipes in the diagram are obviously named pipes, but they're not Linux pipes. There seems to be not only multiple types (which is disturbingly Microsoft), but often multiple by the same name (which would confuse most sane OSes, if not the insane ones too.)

    It's almost like they're instances of a subroutine object all running in parallel...

    [–] lseif@sopuli.xyz 15 points 11 months ago

    i assemble arch, btw

    [–] KISSmyOS@lemmy.world 15 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)
    [–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

    Not the Wiki I expected. ;)

    [–] KISSmyOS@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

    Wait, which Wiki did you expect?

    [–] Public_Tumbleweed@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)
    [–] shadearg@lemmy.world 14 points 11 months ago (1 children)

    Four of them c parts lookin' a lil too curved...

    [–] NoSpotOfGround@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

    I bet the counts of 8 and 12 for c and d are swapped by mistake...

    [–] ashok36@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

    They're not. A is the starting piece on both sides. B is the end piece. C and D are the pieces between a and B.

    The order for each side would be acccddddcccb.

    E is the 11 bars that hold the two sides together.

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    [–] confusedwiseman@lemmy.world 14 points 11 months ago

    Read’s instructions: “Doesn’t seem that bad, what’s the issue?”

    Sees: ‘Arch User Manual’

    Notices community…

    D’Oh!

    [–] jvrava9@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

    For people that complain, remember that its still more sturdy and easier than assembling windows.

    [–] macrocephalic@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago (1 children)

    I'm not especially interested in Arch, but I'd like to know where the metal garden is 🤘

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    [–] Veneroso@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago (1 children)

    If you have extra parts when you're done that's a compiler error, check your module dependencies.

    If you're missing parts, check the forums, but this looks like a new system; that wifi chipset might be unsupported.

    Metric? Somebody set the region settings wrong!

    [–] dan@upvote.au 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

    Metric? Somebody set the region settings wrong!

    That's a weird way to spell "correctly"

    I'm a metric user btw

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    [–] FQQD@feddit.de 10 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    Metal Garden sounds like a 2000s metal news website

    [–] jaybone@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

    Sounds like a 90s grunge band.

    Or rather a really shitty ripoff of one.

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    [–] Kyatto@leminal.space 6 points 11 months ago

    Step 1. Build it

    [–] key@lemmy.keychat.org 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

    I know the straight pipes move data between processes and curved pipes go to or from files depending on direction, but what do bolts do?

    [–] Nilz@sopuli.xyz 4 points 11 months ago

    The bolts are libraries, if you remove them everything will collapse.

    [–] rustydrd@sh.itjust.works 5 points 11 months ago

    "Some assembly required."

    [–] MargotRobbie@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

    Have you looked on the Arch wiki for the Metal Garden package?

    [–] DocMcStuffin@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

    That sounds pretty niche. You may have to check AUR.

    [–] NickwithaC@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

    Ahh that sure is a fine looking metal garden arch.

    WHY CAN'T MINE LOOK LIKE THAT?!

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