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    [–] arandomthought@sh.itjust.works 55 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    If they don't understand this, can we even call it intelligent life?

    [–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 64 points 11 months ago (11 children)

    Maybe they use Emacs.

    Bonus: I googled "emacs" to make sure I got the capitalization right for the post and Google is throwing shade:

    [–] jmcs@discuss.tchncs.de 25 points 11 months ago (1 children)

    Google does the opposite of "vi". Some people just like to watch the world burn.

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    [–] TurnItOff_OnAgain@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago (1 children)
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    [–] hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)
    [–] dukk@programming.dev 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

    It’s the other way around, too.

    Not as true though.

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    [–] dubyakay@lemmy.ca 6 points 11 months ago

    Maybe it's time to stop using GOOG

    [–] Willem@kutsuya.dev 4 points 11 months ago
    [–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 4 points 11 months ago
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    [–] MTK@lemmy.world 36 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    I just shoot myself whenever I want to leave vim

    [–] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 15 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    You don't need to be so drastic just shut down the electricity by the main switch

    [–] GoosLife@lemmy.world 17 points 11 months ago (1 children)

    I rent a place where I don't have direct access to the main switch, so what I do is I just stop paying utilities until Vim closes :)

    [–] EuroNutellaMan@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago

    Or just shoot the main switch if you at least have a line of sight on it

    [–] vrighter@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 11 months ago

    you can just unplug your pc: and that way you won't incur downtime for the rest of the house.

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    [–] vsis 35 points 11 months ago (1 children)

    wrong: you press esc multiple times to make sure you are in normal mode.

    [–] treadful@lemmy.zip 15 points 11 months ago

    At least 3 times. 5 to make sure.

    [–] doctorn@r.nf 24 points 11 months ago (1 children)
    [–] hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com 24 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    You shouldn't really use editor with sudo, but instead use sudoedit to edit files restricted to root user

    SUDO_EDITOR=nano sudoedit /etc/fstab

    This accomplishes the same function while running the text editor as unprivileged user

    [–] doctorn@r.nf 9 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (18 children)

    Why?

    Files from user: nano

    Files from root: sudo nano

    Files from another user: sudo nano (and if new sudo chown after)... 😂

    Never had any problems with this in over 10 years... 😅😂

    [–] Hawk@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    Doing sudo nano will not load your user configuration, sudoedit will. I had plenty of problems with this, but I assume you don't have any custom configuration.

    [–] samuelc@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

    One reason why sometime I don't do sudoedit is that I make a lot of changes to the config/restart service/see it works/edit etc.. sudoedit only write to the file when exiting, so that flow won't work...

    for example when having adding a new host on nginx and some configuration and see if everything work (sudo vim/systemc nginx restart/curl https:// domain loop)

    but yeah in general i'll just use sudoedit (which alias to se for me) for my root editing

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    [–] Huschke@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago (6 children)

    Alternatively you could use my favorite approach, Visual Studio Code. Just open the file with it, edit it and upon saving you will be promoted if the file needs admin rights to save.

    [–] LaSaucisseMasquee@jlai.lu 7 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

    Okay but how can I show how good I am with shortcuts to edit legacy software ?

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    [–] SigHunter@feddit.de 23 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

    until the moment you realize that somehow you are not on your native keyboard layout and where the hell is : and ! in this weird language??!

    [–] lseif@sopuli.xyz 10 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)
    [–] JetpackJackson@feddit.de 4 points 11 months ago

    I have done this too many times now lol, you'd think I would have learned

    [–] MacNCheezus@lemmy.today 22 points 11 months ago (1 children)

    "I use Arch Linux btw"

    *doesn't know how to use vim

    Pottery

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    [–] marietta_man@yall.theatl.social 20 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (3 children)

    ESC Z Z

    Although I usually bang ESC a few times to
    make sure i’m back to command mode

    [–] lseif@sopuli.xyz 13 points 11 months ago (1 children)
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    [–] digger@lemmy.ca 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

    Double Z's will save and then exit. The command on until board will exit without saving changes.

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    [–] _cnt0@sh.itjust.works 17 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    Great, now all my changes are lost. Thank you very much!

    [–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 12 points 11 months ago

    Your welcome!

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    [–] TimeSquirrel@kbin.social 17 points 11 months ago (1 children)
    [–] key@lemmy.keychat.org 11 points 11 months ago (2 children)
    [–] WaterWaiver@aussie.zone 7 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

    Alternative:

    Ctrl-z  
    kill -9 %1   # Shell keeps track of job pids for you, job 1 is %1, job 2 is %2, etc
    fg  # Not technically necessary, but it's fun to see the corpse
    [–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)
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    [–] Im_old@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago (1 children)

    Ok ok, I know it's a meme, but gentle reminder that :x is :w and :q combined (save and exit). I got taught that in high school (it was a dec unix with real vt120 terminals) and luckily for me I remembered that even if I didn't touch vi for a few years afterwards.

    [–] Dasnap@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

    Funnily enough, I knew of :x before :w.

    [–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    i think you mean ctrl s and ctrl x

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    [–] glowie@h4x0r.host 7 points 11 months ago

    What is this sorcery?! I thought you had to reboot each time to exit.

    [–] Tenthrow@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    That's only if you don't want to save first (ahem write the buffer).

    [–] Jorgelino@lemmy.ml 9 points 11 months ago

    Odds are if you don't know how to exit vim you probably don't want to save whatever you wrote in there.

    [–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

    Who in there right mind would want to save a bunch of gibberish

    [–] QuazarOmega@lemy.lol 4 points 11 months ago

    ihh splqqiq:wq

    Wear your mistakes proudlyq!

    [–] kbotc@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    META-C :wq!

    ESC is all the way over there and my hand is already on the space bar.

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