Fringe right and fringe left both make this conversation difficult (lemmy.myserv.one)

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An 8-panel Phoebe Teaching Joey meme.

The first panel is Phoebe from Friends saying "Russia".

The second panel is Joey from the same show replying with "Russia".

The third panel is Phoebe saying "has invaded".

The fourth panel is Joey repeating back "has invaded".

The fifth panel is Phoebe saying "Ukraine".

The sixth panel is Joey repeating back "Ukraine".

The seventh panel is Phoebe saying the completed phrase "Russia has invaded Ukraine".

The final panel shows Joey proudly proclaiming "NATO just started a proxy war".

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[-] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

Victim blaming at it's finest! Ukraine gets invaded, it must be their fault!

[-] TipRing@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

Maybe Ukraine shouldn't have been dressed so provocatively.

[-] OneOrTheOtherDontAskMe@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Westerners don't get it. They didn't see citizens in Crimea and Donbas walking around in their "fuck me, Putin" shorts and their "imperialism now" borscht stained t-shirts.

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Thank you for the laugh, see you in hell. :)

[-] Astroturfed@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

They're nazis because the NATO helped them not be colonized and drained of resources by Russia. Not wanting to have your hospitals and schools bombed, makes you a nazi obviously.

[-] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

I think the Russian conception of Nazi is literally someone who threatens Russia. The rest of the world focuses on the totalitarian ideologies and anti semitism, Russia largely focuses on just that they were against Russia.

[-] DulyNoted@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I think the Russian conception of Nazi is literally someone who threatens Russia.

Yep. Just like the US definition of socialist/communist/terrorist

[-] Badass_panda@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

This is a NATO proxy war in that NATO, an organization created to provide European countries protection from Russia's territorial ambitions, is providing assistance to a European country to help protect them from Russia's territorial ambitions.

I can't get over the circular logic of thinking Russia is justified in its invasion of another country by the fact that the other country wanted to be better prepared to defend against Russia invading it.

"I need to beat up my neighbor for trying to take a self defense class, because if he takes the class I won't be able to beat him up."

Dude, it only comes up if you're trying to beat up your neighbor. just don't do that.

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