Starving parents are gonna want starving children says fat dictator.
this post was submitted on 04 Dec 2023
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Maybe the kids are for food?
Damn, all the world's dictators seem to be getting on the same page with their misogynistic bullshit lately. Good coordination! /s
It's long term despot thinking. The world is having a birth rate crisis, falling below replacement rate, so if they can dictate their way to a birthrate of 3+ then they'll be able to just wait us out. Productivity is power in world economics.
Showing the paucity of dictators for learning from the mistakes of the past, Mao thought as much as well. Bit of a shame the crisis China found itself in because of that.
I thought countries like China wanted a smaller population? Now they want a bigger population I wish they'd pick something and then stick with it.
Didn't Putin ask the same not long ago?
Why would Putin want North Korean women to have more children?
Ah, the old Lemmy switcheroo.
Dam
So they can work in his factories?
First Putin, now this fat fuck, Xi will be next...
China was first. This is from March: https://www.reuters.com/world/china/time-money-love-china-brainstorms-ways-boost-birth-rate-2023-03-15/
Getting ready for war
What are you going to feed them with?
I think they are the food
"So we can sell them to Russia as cannon-fodder"
Lots of countries are trying to encourage births, his approach is just a bit more... Direct. Enacting policies? Just tell people to bump uglies more!
Also, given South Korea's population is projected to decline sharply, having more soldiers to throw in the frontlines would be a strategic advantage in a future war.
To give some perspective, North Korea currently has about the same fertility rate as the US.
Per the article, North Korea's fertility rate is 1.79 in 2022, down from 1.88 in 2014. Meanwhile, the US has been on a slow increase with its TFR over the last few years - 1.782 in 2022 and 1.784 in 2023. Interestingly, older women are contributing to the increase over younger women.
And N. Korea has little to no immigration to subsidize being below 2.1.
Good point - and it's an important distinction. Immigrants in the US usually have higher birth rates than native-born. Of course no one is allowed to emigrate from North Korea but that most likely contributes to their net decline.
many women are waiting til they are 'older' before having any kids.
Yeah it's difficult to have kids when you and your spouse can barely afford a one bedroom apartment together, people have longer debt payoff periods now due to the skyrocketing rate of education. That needs to be taken care of before you incur the debt that a child leads to.
Cars, housing, education have all become insanely overpriced and it's seriously slowing down how quickly people can start families of their own.
If people waited until they're student loans we're paid off. A whole lot of them would be waiting till they are 60. Myself included.
I can’t tell if this is a troll post or if you need to ask for a refund for your education.
I wanted three kids - my wife was done at two. It’s not like we really debated it, but I’m trying to figure out how I could have said “See honey, dear leader says we should have three, and he is of course infallible. Do it for nation’s great glory!”
This sounds dangerously like you actually respect your wife.
Guys, I think he's serious
This is the best summary I could come up with:
SEOUL, South Korea (AP) — North Korean leader Kim Jong Un has said it is a duty of women to halt a fall in the country’s births in order to strengthen national power, state media said Monday, as his government steps up the call for the people to have more children.
“Stopping the decline in birthrates and providing good child care and education are all our family affairs that we should solve together with our mothers,” Kim said in his opening speech.
South Korea’s fertility rate, the lowest in the developed world, is believed to be due to a potent cocktail of reasons discouraging people from having babies, including a decaying job market, a brutally competitive school environment for children, traditionally weak child care assistance and a male-centered corporate culture where many women find it impossible to combine careers and family.
The country’s fertility rate recorded a major decline following a famine in the mid-1990s that was estimated to have killed hundreds of thousands of people, the Seoul-based Hyundai Research Institute said in a report in August.
“Given North Korea lacks resources and technological advancements, it could face difficulties to revive and develop its manufacturing industry if sufficient labor forces are not provided,” the institute report said.
Ahn, the website head, said that Kim Jong Un’s repeated public appearances with his young daughter, Ju Ae, are also likely be efforts to encourage families.
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DickTators be like what?
This is usually a story you hear from a country as they develop. Birth rate declines as development rises and isn't affected much by other factors. What development factors are triggering a decline in the birth rate of North Koreans?
Even in fucking Gaza the fertility rate is 3.38. That's a territory that's constantly been bombed, people keep getting shot, and there's lack of reliable access to clean water and electricity.
For sures. Just increase the quality of life and grant us freedoms for us to enjoy, oh benevolent dictator. Our depression, fear, and malnutrition makes it difficult for us to get hard/wet.
So what are the acrobatics NK apologists justify this with?
I'm a bit confused. What's there to justify? Every country needs their birthrate to be within a certain margin and north Korea is no exception. Other countries have also enacted pronatalist policies.
With whom, Jong Un?! With whom?!
Actual unironic North Korean human farms in 3, 2, 1...
Do you know nothing about the female reproductive system? Just as it has a way to shut that thing down if there has been a rape, it can just become spontaneously pregante if the carrier really wants a baby (or is ordered by The Great Leader).
Envy from the Europe with its population going extint and aging. Is there any single country in Europe where it's not the case?
If people don't think there is much of a future in this world then they're not going to have kids are they? And given that the majority of the problems in the world are caused by overpopulation of reduced population seems like a good thing.
The majority of humanities problems are caused by shit government policy and billionaires' addiction to pollution and making line go up.
Overpopulation is a part of the issue, but pales in comparison to the rich, corps and corrupt politicians.
E: you're bang on about the existential dread being part of it, if folks are poor or have little going for them, the likelihood of having kids drops significantly.