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French Courts Are Giving Protesters INSANE Sentences (www.youtube.com)
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French courts have been imposing disproportionately severe sentences for minor offenses, including 10 months in prison for stealing a can of Red Bull and one year for a homeless boy with schizophrenia caught looting a luxury store. The overwhelmed courts rush cases, provide minimal time for defendants, and prioritize punishment under the instruction of the Justice Minister. Furthermore, the French government is censoring social media and justifying it by claiming to protect public order, but it infringes upon free speech and mirrors tactics used by authoritarian regimes. The justice system exhibits a double standard, favoring the privileged, and creates a class divide, leading to unrest. Ironically, the government compares itself to oppressive nations while undermining democratic principles.

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[–] mikkL@lemmy.world 40 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Is that really a journalist… or a commentator? Not a very objective analysis of the situation.

[–] balls_expert@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Journalists aren't intrinsically meant to be objective. They are allowed to be completely biased

[–] EveryMuffinIsNowEncrypted@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 1 year ago

And I'm allowed to take a shit on my keyboard. Doesn't mean it's encouraged.

[–] answersplease77@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

click on the link for the full article

[–] dudebro@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago

Welcome to lemmy.

[–] masquenox@lemmy.ml 30 points 1 year ago

And Bastille Day is coming up in about four days, isn't it?

Oh, the irony...

[–] birdcat@lemmy.ml 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It's an interesting development for sure. In Germany they want to prosecute climate protesters (letzte Generation) for organizing a criminal organization (like mafia, yes). If things continue in this direction the saying "it's not about left/right, it's about freedom/authoritarianism" might soon be something I will say with zero irony.

[–] MrShankles@reddthat.com 1 points 1 year ago

I worry for the day when class wars become the next world war

[–] Kuinox@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Heavily oriented video and summary.
Here is a "check news" from liberation, a left leaning french media (warning: it's in french), about the guy who "just stole a redbull": https://www.liberation.fr/checknews/violences-urbaines-un-homme-a-t-il-ete-condamne-a-dix-mois-de-prison-ferme-pour-le-vol-dune-canette-de-redbull-20230704_XDDKWZ6GXRHP3JAYZQF5R2GJP4/

The lawyer adds: "He's a boy without stories." Who, however, has a criminal record: last year, he was tried in voluntary appearance on prior admission of guilt (procedure of "plead-guilty" which allows a quick judgment and proposes a sentence less than that incurred) for burglary and received a one-year prison sentence, suspended.

He was arrested by the police on the evening of June 29 as he left a looted Monoprix store, a can of Redbull in his hand.

Not only he had a suspended sentence, he also LOOTED the redbull from a store.

[–] Saikopat@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I didn't watch the video but i'm very surprised about the censured medias thing, never heard about anything like that recently. And i should know, I live there.

So sure, journalists' work has been increasingly harder to do the last few years, but censorship, real state censorship or "gag order" like the us does sometimes ?

That's a line no french government would dare to cross because THAT would be the real riots. What's happening right know would be merely skirmirshes in comparison.

[–] Kuinox@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

The liberation article I linked even says journalists, them included, could witness the trials.
Macron is indeed talking about censoring social media to cripple these riots, but nothing have been done yet to allows this.

[–] girlfreddy@sh.itjust.works 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

America has similar stupid sentences for many vaguely criminal acts, usually dependent on skin color.

[–] sudo@lemmy.fmhy.ml 8 points 1 year ago

Hey, that's not a fair evaluation of the US 'Justice' system. Being rich has a lot to do with your success as well.

[–] HenriVolney@sh.itjust.works 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Your post sounds more like a manifesto than a news piece. Also, your source is really oriented... unless you are using Lemmy as a platform for your own content which is not what I'm here for.

[–] zephyreks@lemmy.ca -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

FMHY.ML has some whack users, so I'm not surprised.

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Thanks, good to know. This new instance business is a bit disconcerting. I am use to be cautious with communities/subs and now I need to learn about instance too. Not a bad thing to change habits from time to time, when you think of it

[–] laenurd@lemmy.lemist.de 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Can we not post YouTube links and other (video/audio) commentaries in news communities?

[–] Raphael@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

How many hundreds of year did the fascist policeman get? Has he already been publicly hanged?

[–] Summzashi@lemmy.one 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why is he a fascist?

[–] Raphael@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

He killed a black man for absolutely no reason.

[–] EveryMuffinIsNowEncrypted@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

We have a lot of people like that here in the US. Doesn't mean he's a fascist; it just means he's a murderous, racist asshole who needs to get his face caved in.

[–] Summzashi@lemmy.one -1 points 1 year ago

So that's fascism huh?

[–] Skunk@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Nothing for now. He asked for liberation until his court case, justice said no.

So he is still sleeping in prison. Apparently he and his colleague gave contradictory statements the IGPN (the police of police).

I believe he will get time, but probably not that much and all the prison time made before the court count as well.

So, protests incoming for the verdict in what, one year ?

[–] mainaccount@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

+1 Please and thank you.

[–] NuPNuA@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago

I mean, this happened after the UK 2012 riots as well. prosecutors will push for the maximum penalty due to the nature of the crime to deter future rioting/looting.

[–] sun_is_ra@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago

Why is 1 year sentence for looting is too much? Or u mean because the personal had psychological condition they should have been admitted to hospital instead ?

[–] kool_newt@beehaw.org 5 points 1 year ago

So they're really going for it huh?

[–] crazyminner@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago

Do these people in charge not understand that if they push french people too hard guillotines will start spawning?

Like either you listen to the people or heads start rolling...

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