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[–] ZC3rr0r@lemmy.ca 31 points 11 months ago (2 children)

And there goes another country to the Alt-right. It's really disheartening to see a message like this continue to win elections globally.

I get that people are worried their left and centre left governments have failed them, but why the pull to the opposite extreme?

That's like saying you want to put ExxonMobil in charge of combating climate change because Greenpeace hasn't solved it yet.

[–] Noedel@lemmy.ml 13 points 11 months ago (2 children)

We've had like 20 years of right wing government and people responded by going more right.

FML

[–] ZC3rr0r@lemmy.ca 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

That's somehow worse and also surprising. I thought your previous governments were made of the worker's party and the Christian centrists. A quick trip to Wikipedia taught me I should stay up to date on politics if I'm going to comment on it.

So that makes me wonder: Why go further right if people feel the ruling right party let them down?

[–] DaDaDrood@feddit.nl 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Because of social media. If you open youtube in a private browser window your stream is filled with alt right desinformation. Same with tiktok. Somehow social media stockholmed the population into blaming the left while right parties have been fucking up the Netherlands the last 20 year with their neo-liberal skullfuckery.

[–] ZC3rr0r@lemmy.ca 2 points 11 months ago

One has to wonder if we wouldn't be better off without social media. Sure, it's done a lot of good in helping people connect and exchange ideas, but some of those people aren't acting in good faith, and some of those ideas are just plain terrible. I don't claim to have the full solution, but it would be a great first step if the equivalent of a fairness doctrine were to be introduced to the algorithms these platforms use to weed out rampant misinformation.

[–] nonagonOrc@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The previous government disbanded over immigration, and Geert Wilders' message of "kick out all immigrants" sadly seemed to resonate well with people. He is also pretty good at tv debates, which is where I think he convinced the very large amount of floating voters this election.

[–] ZC3rr0r@lemmy.ca 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

People actively voted for deportation? Oh boy. There are some scary historic precedents there that I hope the Netherlands will avoid.

[–] nonagonOrc@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

Sounds scarier than it is. They still need a majority, and no other party will join them in their most extreme plans. We also have laws that protect against stuff like this.

[–] Kushia@lemmy.ml 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

This is what sabor rattling and fear mongering gets you, people are too gullible and scared to vote in their actual best interests because they think those interests are to run to the party that'll protect them from an imaginary evil. Combine that with left-wing governments often being incompetent and giving in to their drama moving further and further to the right to try to win what they perceive as the popular vote instead of properly combating it and a complicit bias media + online shills in their thousands and this is the outcome.

[–] Akasazh@feddit.nl 12 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Just like everywhere else, the top heavy generation of the baby boomers trying hard to get their own. Youth vote was largely leftist, but fuck the future generations, right?

[–] MistyBubz@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Their points concerning the economy are actually quite reasonable (if they are attainable). It’s the climate goals and immigration standpoints that are the problem imo.

Edit: and of course their obsession with Islam too.

[–] CurlyWurlies4All@slrpnk.net 2 points 11 months ago

You can guess which will get more attention once in power, neo liberal economic changes or immigration and climate change.