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Capitalism, religion, monarchy, and religion.
Hey, you said oppression four times.
Patriarchy
I suppose that's a good catchall term
the catchall term is that they're all examples of hierarchies.
You forget neoliberalism.
I hope you don't mind we disagreeing with the second and the last point :)
Because you are a priest/rabbi/imam?
Nope, because if I was I probably wouldn't be here ๐
Priests only work one day a week. They have plenty of time to browse Lemmy.
No, it's because a lot of Islamic scholars I know refuse to use social media.
calling capitalism a scam is moot, the other viable alternative, socialism is even worse.
also, no country on planet earth is pure-capitalism, not even in US. Northern European countries have proven that market economy with the right taxation policies can effectively distribute income. I wished more wokeist knew about this or at least bothered to do a bit of research.
Love to be told I need to do research by someone who can't even use words correctly in a sentence
Gosh I didn't know a country couldn't be capitalist if there were taxes. Please tell me more about basic terminology everyone else in the world is using wrong but you.
"i can't participate in a normal, healthy discussion and refute the other person with clearly made out points so I am going to resort to ad-hominem insults to gaslight and invalidate his points."
the "wokeist" label wasn't directed at you, i'm more commenting about individuals that take issue with cApiTaliSm but not really addressing the issue properly. Wokeists THINK capitalism is wrong BECAUSE it is capitalism. I am all for income redistribution and support a just and equitable society if you're wondering before you come at me again.
In any case, you're the one asserting it's a scam, shouldn't you be the one explaining why capitalism is a scam? the onus is on you mate, not the person cross-examining you.
Lmao I haven't had someone edit their entire comment after a reply since
What a fucking loser. Using ~~woke~~ ~~woker~~ wokeist as an insult. Go back to the
This some smooth brain shit lol
In short, the accumulation of capital by the capitalist class, profit generated by labour, as labour is the only source of capital. Hence, the working class sells its labour to the capitalist class for a wage, which ensures we'll never get the full value of our labour.
Sounds like a scam to me. Also 'no country is full capitalist' just shows how little you actually know about the topic at hand, yet you remain unbearrably smug in your ignorance. Real lib shit.
France has no gold or uranium mines inside its borders, yet has a shitload of gold and uranium. Where did it come from?
Opinion discarded
I live in Norway. The system is fucked. The economy is full of monopolies and the solution is always to subsidise things that become unaffordable instead of putting a price cap on them. Private companies are allowed to charge whatever they want because they know that the government has their back.
The issue here is the lack of regulation. Regulations work. What doesn't work and is a scam is "the free market will autoregulate".
You're mixing socialism and communism. Going from here, you see more than two options what make it a non-binary issue.
Communism itself has multiple variations. What we saw until today with fever exceptions wasn't communism either. It was dictatorship using communism. At the beginning, they may believe in the ideology but once in power, they took another path.
Look at this dude never having heard of unequal exchange.
Also
Fuckin hell lmao least deranged