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GM confirms $130,000 Cadillac Escalade IQ won’t have Apple CarPlay or Android Auto | GM said it was going to drop Apple CarPlay and Android Auto in all vehicles, and now, that includes Cadillac’s l...::Cadillac confirms its new Google built-in infotainment leaves no room for Apple CarPlay or Android Auto. Instead, Google built-in is running the 55-inch infotainment screen.

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[–] ante@lemmy.world 124 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I'm not the target audience for this to begin with, but I refuse to own a car ever again that doesn't have Android Auto. What a bunch of anti-consumer bullshit. What are the odds GM starts charging a subscription fee to access apps on these vehicles?

[–] overzeetop@lemmy.world 40 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I thought they already announced they would be targeting their infotainment as a subscription based service.

A quick duck duck go: https://www.pymnts.com/subscriptions/2022/gm-rolling-out-dozens-of-new-subscription-offerings/

[–] UristMcHolland@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

GM is also competing for a piece of the $5.5 billion connected commercial vehicle market, as PYMNTS reported recently.

The company offers a fleet telematics solution called OnStar Vehicle Insights that features a vehicle locator, vehicle health, driver behavior, performance insights, daily trip summaries and remote commands. This last tool lets drivers lock, unlock and remote start the vehicle from a website or app.

I would rather have none of that in my vehicle, thanks.

[–] overzeetop@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

I like my vehicles like I like my software - buy once for the features that exist now; upgrade when there is a compelling reason to do so. This rent-seeking subscription bullshit is crap.

[–] Tandybaum@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I agree. It’s a line in the sand at this point.

I remember back in the 90s looking at these super cool CD players people and installed. I’m sure the nice ones were insanely expensive. CarPlay/Android Auto is a better UI than literally any other option ever put in a car. End of story.

[–] eldavi@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

apple and google are helping lead the charge against carplay and android auto

[–] HaywardT@lemmy.sdf.org 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I refuse to own a car that doesn't have a DIN slot for my own tech.

[–] dlok@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What modern vehicles still have that? Most of the cars I've had lately and aren't even modern have proprietary shit

[–] AttackPanda@programming.dev 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I have a 2016 Jeep which is relatively modern and installed an aftermarket head unit.

[–] Juvyn00b@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

2016 model year is 8 years old + now...

[–] dlok@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lmao.. i didn't even realise how old my 2012 is

[–] ImpossibilityBox@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

cries in a 2007 Yaris

[–] eldavi@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

car makers started phasing out dins in 2013 and they don't give warnings if newer models don't include them, so you better buy sooner rather than later

[–] HaywardT@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 year ago

It is unlikely that I will ever buy something newer than 2005. I'm in a 1994 right now.

[–] IMALlama@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I think the idea is to get you to pay for data for your car. Tesla is often cited as doing the same thing (eg no phone projection, use the built in), but their unlimited data price is super reasonable at like $100/year. I am not sure what GM is charging, but I wouldn't be surprised if it's more.

[–] ante@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah but I also already pay for a phone and am tired of being nickel and dimed at every opportunity. The price of the service isn't necessarily the issue -- it's the fact that there is a price to begin with.

[–] IMALlama@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Totally agree. Don't tell me more reasons why I want to pay like, "your car is a hotspot now!". I can already do that with my phone. There's no need to have a data plan per device in my mind if you already have a modem in your pocket.

[–] abhibeckert@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I am not sure what GM is charging

To be honest, I don't really care what it costs I wouldn't pay. No car manufacturer in the world has ever produced a car with a good mapping system. I can't imagine why anyone would pay anything at all for a product that's worse than the free one in their phone.

And you can add horrible UIs to that list too, that GM system looks like ass

I’ve got a Dodge Journey they have horrible looking icons from 1995 with a shit looking red backdrop

[–] supercheesecake@aussie.zone 2 points 1 year ago

Yep agree. Even if it’s super reasonable now, just wait until they've got everyone. It’s the enshittification of the auto industry.

[–] eldavi@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

What are the odds GM starts charging a subscription fee to access apps on these vehicles?

that's why theyre doing it and both apple and google are helping them.