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As a german: The tought of having to exclude Berlin from these statistics because it is such a trainwreck really butters my eggroll
That’s a study that is nearly ten years old, and is also severely misunderstood.
Firstly, yes, Berlin hasn’t got too much to add to Germany’s GDP, but that’s not really Berlin’s fault. In 2001 Berlin went broke because of the investment East-Berlin needed, but subsequently was denied help by the federal government. Yeah, no shit, if you don’t invest in your capital which has no industry to speak of, it’s not going to end well.
Second, this statistic showed that without Berlin, Germany would be 0.2% richer, while France would be 15% poorer without Paris. What does that mean? Simply that all the economic power is concentrated at one point in France. In Germany, the economic power is more evenly spread across the country. The largest state, NRW, has a GDP of 43k€/y per capita, which today is just barely more than Berlin with 42k€/y.
Berlin’s GDP is stronger than the other East German states, the bottom regions are MVP and SA, so the graph above would be better with Berlin included.
But yeah, Berlin is a trainwreck…
Is Berlin really like hell?
No, hell is the area around Berlin. It is a trainwreck tho. Literally the only capital city in europe that costs more money than it brings in.
Just nuke it out of existence already
B.t.w., here's the article, but we should still be wary of the statistics, one of them is in current prices while the other is in p.p.p.
, despite having a more democratic workplace, better working conditions, sanctions, ..., and military is such a waste of money while we could unite, and use this money for so much more.
Furthermore, i'm not sure that the g.d.p. is the best way to estimate the economic power of a state, there may be biases if, e.g., a capitalist economy leads to an artificial augmentation through the different capitalistic rents, i.d.k.
Even by these standards, the u.s.s.r. did better than the ex-colonies (source) and most of the world
I've seen that germans are quite active here, as well as on reddit, frenchs only arrive third as non-english speakers, it's a bit weird not to hear more about Spain&Portugal or Italy, 🤷♂️
I'd say that i'm french but i.d.k. if i'm entirely identifying with my country anymore, what's certain is that i'm identifying with the classic(pre-XIXth) authors of western Europe, may i ask why you were happy that Berlin had to be excluded :) ?