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[–] masterspace@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Starting on the right, you have a ground level road with two lanes going either direction, an off ramp, 5 lanes of collectors, a transition between collectors and express, then 2 lanes of express, then 2 lanes of express the other way, a transition, and 5 lanes of collectors.

And I was basing my comment on Toronto looking like this on there being sections of the 401 and 400 that are similarly around the 14 lanes wide seen in the photo.

[–] m3m3lord@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It depends on where you count from. If you count near the bottom, there are 11 lanes across in one direction, meaning a total of 22 lanes which matches the 26 in the other comment if you include and exit and enter lane on either sided. The 401 has 3 lanes in the collector's and 3 lanes in the express meaning 12 lanes total for both directions you could add 4 lanes which go to/from the collector and express for 16 lanes total. Is this similar to the 14 lanes you claim? Sure. But the 401 and 400 highways do not get nearly as wide as the one in the image at its widest.

[–] masterspace@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It depends on where you count from. If you count near the bottom, there are 11 lanes across in one direction, meaning a total of 22 lanes

No, it doesn't, because feeder lanes have always been excluded from the discussion, since the lane counts listed for the 401 don't include them.

And I'm sorry but just shut up and stop talking. Multiple sections of the 401 running right next to highway 7 look identical to this, as do parts of this the 400, the qew, and the 403 / 407 merge areas.

Toronto and southern Ontario as a region can't say shit when it comes to regional transportation networks. We designed one of the worst fucking transportation systems imaginable.

We built the whole region as a hub and spoke model with a singular hub (Toronto), that everything runs to. We failed to interconnect any other cities in the regions while also failing to build any adequate public transit within any cities that aren't Toronto. We built a whole GO train network that again connected nothing to nothing that wasn't the financial district of Toronto to random Suburban parkings lots at rush hour. When I originally said that Toronto looks just like this photos that is true both metaphorically and as I've printed out, repeatedly literally.

[–] m3m3lord@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 year ago

Firstly, there is no reason to say shut up. Being wrong doesn't mean you should also be rude.

Just because you didn't consider feeder lanes does not mean they were not or should not be considered. Highway 7 is not really ever visible from the 401. When it is close, it connects to the largest airport in the country, which is why there are so many interchnages there. An express transit system that could bring people to and from the airport from surrounding regions would be a significant improvement, but this is not the situation for the majority of the 401, which connects larger and smaller cities from Quebec to Windsor. An express train following a similar path could really benefit 6 the current system is not as bad as you claim. I live in the Durham region and if I want to, I can go to Burlington by train for like $10 and around 2 hours which is certainly reasonable. What did you print out and what printer did you use?