cross-posted from: https://lemm.ee/post/3376057
I held off on Windows 10 for as long as I could until my job required it. Now this nonsense. I hope this isn't the start of them joining on the web DRM bandwagon.
this post was submitted on 07 Aug 2023
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"I held off on Windows 10 for as long as I could until my job required it."
Good, users like you are the reason ransomware happens. Fucking update your shit. Windows 7 isn't secure anymore.
@c0mbatbag3l @jeena Or just stop using MS products. They build in backdoors just for criminals anyway.
Source please?
@sugar_in_your_tea
Old anecdotal knowledge from the 1990s.
Became public in these court cases:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stac_Electronics
MS successfully countersued STAC because they were using proprietary DOS calls, ie reserved for MS products only giving them an advantage.
There is no reason to believe MS ever discontinued their use.
So you're saying that they're the criminals in question? Or are you saying that somehow they're selling access to those old MS-DOS APIs?
I'm really not sure how any of this supports the original claim that Microsoft makes APIs specifically for criminal companies. All it says is that they make APIs for themselves. They're a POS company, sure, so there's no reason to stretch the truth.
@sugar_in_your_tea
I never said or meant to imply that.
MS builds backdoors for their own use.
Criminals can use those backdoors.
I quoted your exact words.
@sugar_in_your_tea cute.
A backdoor is not an api.
A proprietary call is justified for competitive reasons but creates vulnerabilities.
Why do you think they exist?
Or do just troll?
A "backdoor" is just an undocumented API. It may have security issues, but it's still an API.
And yeah, companies love their backdoors because it makes a lot of things easier for the vendor. Apple loves the ability to send security patches without the user being aware so they can silently patch systems to limit the impact of a virus. That's still a backdoor, but its arguably a desirable one. Microsoft used its control of the OS to make other browsers run worse than IE, and that resulted in the antitrust case of 1998, after which Microsoft agreed to share its APIs. That's arguably an undesirable use of a backdoor.
So why do they exist? Mostly to make things more convenient for the vendor. Sometimes it's in the users interest, sometimes it's not, but it's never made to support external criminal enterprise and rarely made to support internal criminal enterprise. Usually it's just to cut costs.
"Trust me bro"
How do you know he wasn't using Linux?
"Held off" doesn't really sound like he switched from one to another, just like he's holding out on updating the OS.
Fuck your judgemental horseshit. Enjoy your loss of ownership and telemetry laiden trash.
I use arch btw.
/s but seriously "held off" doesn't mean "kept using aftsr end of service" like you assumed. Lots of people waited till 7's end of life to switch.
@TeepoPeeto @c0mbatbag3l Stuck with Win2k from 1999-2010, was forced onto XP when stuff like games wouldn't install because 2k didn't have Windows Firewall. Never mind the PC already had a decent firewall (think it was atGuard).
Still use Win7, in a VM, as it's where my 🏴☠️ Adobe products run.
I don't even understand the hate. It works well, stable, fast and pretty decent on RAM. Even early on I haven't had any major issues.
Yeah, I'm generally an early adopter of software, even installed XP media center edition and Win 8 as soon as they were available through the volume licensing center. I've never understood the hate around 10 or 11 on the whole. Yes they have a few frustrating aspects, but overall, they're significant improvements. I occasionally use a win 10 device at work, and it feels clunkier than 11 now. 7 was great, but it isn't worth compromising an entire network for.
I like how you just assumed win7.
I held off to - when 7's support ended I moved to 8.1 and used openshell to make it look like 7. When 8.1 support ended I moved to 10 finally. I have to stay on a supported os for security and compliamce, but I make my employer pay for the upgrades and I don't rush to the latest version - as long as its still supported I'm not moving.
I have a light at the end of the tunnel tho. My work tools are getting official linux versions. My work laptop has been windows but my home desktop has been linux. I may be able to drop windows entirely soon.
Edit: "he didn't upgrade AND he disagreed with our hive minds opinion! Quick downvote!" How about you just Go back to reddit losers.
Of course I assumed windows 7, no one liked Windows 8/8.1
I'd wouldn't blame anyone for skipping right over it to 10, it's what I did. We are all required to run 11 now but 10 is still fine from a security posture at the moment in my opinion.
I'm not security, just a network engineer with a background in security auditing, so I could have out of date info on 10 still being safe, but it still gets updates at least.