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    I love systemd (lemmy.blahaj.zone)
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    [–] kbity@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    The biggest problem people have with systemd is that it's constantly growing, taking on more functions and becoming a dependency of more software. People joke that some day you won't be using Linux anymore, but GNU/systemd, (or as they've taken to calling it, GNU plus systemd) because it's ever-growing from a simple init daemon into a significant percentage of an entire operating system.

    People worry that some day, you won't be able to run a Linux system that's compatible with much of the software developed for Linux without using systemd. Whether that's a realistic worry or not I don't know, and I don't really have a horse in the systemd VS not-systemd race, but I can appreciate being worried that systemd might end up becoming a hard requirement for a Linux system in a way that nothing else really is - you can substitute GNOME for KDE, X11 for Wayland (or Mir, I guess), PulseAudio for PipeWire and most stuff will still work, so the idea that systemd could become as non-negotiable an element of a Linux system as the Linux kernel itself rubs people the wrong way, as it functionally makes Linux with systemd a different target platform entirely to Linux with another init daemon.

    [–] Girtablulu@feddit.de 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    But that's not an issue from systemd but by the software devs, which are saying they only support systemd

    [–] vrighter@discuss.tchncs.de 20 points 1 year ago

    pretty much everyone is saying pipewire is the future, because it does the job really well.

    A lot of people say wayland is the future because it does the job better.

    I don't get the resistance to systemd. It does the job well, and it does it better than most old systems. It does a lot of things, but it's because those are things that need to be done.

    There will always be complainers about everything