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Hi all, I'm a Lemmy FOSS app contributor that's made a couple of tools for people starting small instances including Lemmy Community Seeder (LCS) for building content on new server's All Feeds and Lemmy Post Purger (LPP) for clearing old posts on smaller instances.

Today I'm releasing Lemmy Defederation Sync (LDS). When launching a new Lemmy instance, administrators may not understand the necessity of defederation with problem instances. Using LDS, you can sync your instance's "blocked instance" list with that of another server(s) whose admins you trust.

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[–] Epsilon@lemmy.ml 82 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Shared Fediblocks are a plague. Get added to one by somebody that personally dislikes you and every instance that uses the block will unknowingly block you.

[–] interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 year ago

Don't worry, highly popular instances won't get on the block list and small instances don't matter enough for it to be a problem. Power always favours the powerful.

[–] deweydecibel@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

The issue is there's no oversight here, or at the very least, no oversight that we can trust to be impartial.

When parties form a federation, it's usually with a signed agreement, to maintain the integrity of the federation and keep it together. Shared standards, rules, ideals, regulations, etc. All I'm seeing here are parties trying to carve out a sub-federation, and with no neutral oversight, it's just going to become a "people like me" circle.

And I guarantee at some point people are going to start thinking "Hey, if this instance isn't subscribing to the shared blocklist, that must mean they want those other instances around, and therefore they deserve to be added to the list"

Then just like that, the fediverse has a defacto authority. Instead of one sepz, we have a council of them from the largest instances.

[–] Epsilon@lemmy.ml 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And I guarantee at some point people are going to start thinking “Hey, if this instance isn’t subscribing to the shared blocklist, that must mean they want those other instances around, and therefore they deserve to be added to the list”

Already is happening on the Mastodon/Pleroma side of the Fediverse. Instances getting de-federated because they dared allowed their users to see posts from "bad" instances

[–] ZodiacSF1969@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

Lol, sometimes I feel like the 'fediverse' (hate that name BTW) is filled with the worst people.

[–] interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

Lemmy is built as a single instance with federation capabilities as an after thought. The biggest clue to this and the reason why it will always re-centralize is that communities are server bound. There is no fediverse wide community and they is by design. Read this closed issue

https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues/3033