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Mainwhile, Russia is actively engaged in the destruction of Ukraine wheat export terminals, and India remains silent.
India, Indonesia and the rest of non alignment countries do not need to enter this war set up by the West.
I agree with you that India doesn't need to take sides, but I'm pretty sure Russian/West cooperation had been increasingly positive since the cold war ended, right until Putin decided he wanted to be an imperialist again. The West didn't make him invade a sovereign, non-threatening country.
Russia imperalist is akin to someone bombing Iraq, Vietnam and Afghanistan?
LOL
Pssst, you're allowed to criticize more than 1 country
Is that why NATO and the EU cannot be baddies?
Iraq was a bullshit war. Cheney, Bush, and Rumsfeld should be in prison for lying to American public to involve us. The Iraqi civilian death toll was obscene. Few will disagree with this.
Ukraine is a bullshit war. Putin should be in prison for lying to involve Russia in it. Few outside Russia disagree with this.
It's not a soccer match. These statements are self-consistent, not contradictory.
A tankies one weakness.. he'll never recover.
I agree; the joke is that multinationalism is used as a shield. Russia is a far-right fascist state just like America has a right and a far right party, just like how Europe is sliding back to fascism, and while China dives into its thought police hell world all while all of the above exploit the rest of the world and or there own citizens to push nationalism to its upmost cancerous potential untill the whole house of cards snaps on the inferno thtis clmiate change.
yes, your point being?
Russia is excused because USA is also doing bad stuff? Because that is a weak fucking argument.
Well... Yes.
They're both bad
Enter the war, no. Make a simple moral comment on who the agresssors are and that they should stop, years.
From what I read India and Russia are really old friends, that's why India isn't saying anything and they do lot of business.
Historical and political reasons too. USA keeps arming Pakistan with modern weapons, and they have a single target to use them on. It would be stupid of India to put all it's weight behind US if that's a one-sided affair. In an ideal world everyone would side with what is moral, unfortunately we don't live in that world.
So true.
More than old friends. India is heavily reliant on russian arms. Replacing them would be a slow, expensive process. Considering it is surrounded on two sides by aggressors with regular conflicts, jeopardizing relations with Russia is not an option.
https://www.elrisala.com/asians-are-less-humane-ukrainian-security-chief/
Its okay to support what Russia is doing, since they call Russians cockroaches and Asians inhuman. India is a supporter of BRICS and Russia.
This reads like an ironic shitpost. No one can seriously believe that one person saying mean things can rationalize an invasion that's killing thousands and hurtsling food security for millions.
Tbf "Asians are subhuman" is what the nazis used to justify killing millions of Russians, Ukrainians, and other USSR ethnicities. Millions of ukrainian red army soldiers are rolling in their graves.
I can't find one source for this that doesn't come back to elrisala.
Even if this story is true, one asshole doesn't justify the genocide that Russia is committing in Ukraine.
Even if this story is true, it happened long after Russia started their "special military operation" and can't be used to justify it.
Nazi speak is "one person saying mean things". Truly a fascist take.
I can point you towards many racist political figures throughout history who weren't fascist. Racist is not the same as fascist. Sure, fascism usually requires creating an in group and an out group, but it's also a lot more than that and needs to be larger than one person. Even if this person is a fascist, it still doesn't even mean anything. He doesn't have the political power to do anything fascist with.
Your pseudo intellectual hipster word salad does not detract from the fact that all of Ukraine's institutions are very much Nazi to the core. Zelensky last year even paid homage to Stepan Bandera, Hitler army's collaborator.
Yeah. All those damned Jewish Nazis in charge over there.
If you were any dumber, you'd be a doorstop.
Well, you are a doorknob for sure!
You can't actually be this detached from reality...
🤡
Honk more, fascist. This is why we call your ilk fascist, unironically.
Try harder.
Where do you people come from
Lemmy.ml and lemmygrad instances are full of tankies. Way I see it it's only a matter of time before they defederate due to having to deal with sane people since the site blew up or people defederate from them as they're just bloody annoying.
I'm ready for that to happen. It's getting old already.
They're fun to troll at least.
While true, at which point does defederating make sense? Been wondering this myself. Reality is full of bad actors so we should be capable of countering these threats without purely relying on censorship. OTOH that takes time and energy best spend elsewhere.
I think it all depends on user levels. At present the activity isn't that much that mods can't deal with any arguments the difference in opinion creates. When you get to Reddit user levels that becomes a lot more difficult.
Looks like Lemmy.ml has been successfully invaded by white libs