this post was submitted on 05 Aug 2023
1919 points (97.7% liked)

Memes

45731 readers
656 users here now

Rules:

  1. Be civil and nice.
  2. Try not to excessively repost, as a rule of thumb, wait at least 2 months to do it if you have to.

founded 5 years ago
MODERATORS
 
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] agressivelyPassive@feddit.de 8 points 1 year ago (3 children)

And the proper way is to teach your kids about it and stop treating kids like super fragile glass beings.

Your city probably has some dark corners too, but you don't set up geofenced tracking beacons to be alarmed if they stumble slightly off the path you intended them to go.

Children should feel comfortable enough to talk to you about bad stuff they encounter, not feel frightened, that they broke a rule.

[–] name_NULL111653@pawb.social 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

By the time I was 17, at least on my windows PC, every search I made was reported. Every setting I touched was reported. Every app I use, and how long, reported. Every startup and shutdown reported. Games with chat features were banned. Online games were banned. Every week on Sunday, an email with all this went to my parents, and my dad would forward it to me as a kind of intimidation that "we know all"...

And yes, they used geofenced tracking too.

But I'm a geek, so my Linux laptop and phone were no longer bugged (my only access to other people at the time) by the time I figured it out (around age 16).

Still had to turn the tracker on so they wouldn't ask why the location pings stopped though.

This kind of obsessive control ought to be illegal. I propose privacy rights at age 16, enforceable by fines, with a safe hotline for those with obsessive parents. They were emotionally abusive, control by external restrictions is often only part of the story in cases like mine.

I'm all for safety filters, but parental controls that can be classified as spyware have no place in a parent-child relationship after the age of 16...

[–] Rukmer@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you use these trackers and barge in "hey I saw what you did on the internet, you're in trouble." then you're doing it wrong. Kids need guidance. If you were negligent enough to let your kid roam the city without supervision, you SHOULD have a tracker on them. We're talking about little kids not 16+. Many young kids get themselves killed or groomed or into some kind of cult online. When that happens to young kids, parents are negligent. When 12 year olds get addicted to porn, negligence. You can guide your children without being an asshole. I know a lot of us grew up either completely neglected or completely terrified to make a mistake, but there is an in-between.

[–] agressivelyPassive@feddit.de 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

When I look outside, there are 5 year olds playing without supervision. They get along just fine.

Not every country is a paranoid dystopia.

[–] Misconduct@lemmy.world -5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Not every state in the US is the same so your comment is mostly based on smug ignorance anyway. It's not paranoia if you live in a city with a lot of crime etc. You just wanted to try and feel superior. Giving me reddit vibes tbh.

[–] ParsnipWitch@feddit.de -3 points 1 year ago

The thing is, parents can get sued for not restricting access of their children to inappropriate media. When you think just talking to your children "the right way" and they will suddenly act wise and smart and good all the time you are incredibly naive.