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[–] 6mementomori@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (5 children)

the message here is ambiguous. are those 1164 arbitrary bela/russians or they're actual threats that happened to be bela/russian. that being said, if one thinks we should just kick people out because they were from the wrong country, just know y'all are becoming Nazis. this shit is scarier than you think. now that the precedent of kicking them out has been set, what's the next line?

If only there was a news story that provided additional information on why those individuals were selected out of the ~58,000 Belarusian and ~16,000 Russian citizens living in Lithuania.

[–] Prandom_returns@lemm.ee 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They were being questioned whether they support war, how the war started, what Crimea belongs to, thoughts about the soviet union.

If they're moronic enough to not lie, their temporary permit is no longer extended.

[–] monk@lemmy.unboiled.info 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You make it sound like they all have just one opinion, but some lie and some don't.

[–] Prandom_returns@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, the ones that don't lie get their temp visas revoked.

[–] monk@lemmy.unboiled.info -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

facepalm There are pro-Ukrainian ones there, lots of them.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes and they haven't been removed.

[–] monk@lemmy.unboiled.info 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sure, videocalling with one right now. That's not what I've been discussing, I was highlighting the suboptimal wording that suggested there were none.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm confused about what your confused about. They were asked if they support the war, if they don't support the war then by default they are Pro Ukrainian. Everything else is just about degrees of support.

[–] monk@lemmy.unboiled.info -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

They wrote "they were asked about [their views]... those who were moronic enough not to lie, were deported", which reads as "not lied => deported" to me. Let's break it down:

Pro-Kremlin, lied = no claims; not deported, I guess.

Pro-Kremlin, not lied = claims they are deported; understandable.

Pro-Ukrainian, lied = no claims; wtf tho.

Pro-Ukrainian, not lied = claims they are deported; that'd be stupid.

Am I clear enough now?

[–] Blackout@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why let the propaganda into your home? If every nation did this it would increase pressure back in Russia. If they are actively attacking an innocent state then why should their people get a vacation?

[–] signed7@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is about Russians living elsewhere not on vacation

[–] Cabrio@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Russian's living elsewhere but actively stating they support Russia, they like Russia so much we're letting them go back.

[–] zer0@thelemmy.club 2 points 1 year ago

We have been "nazi" for a long time. All states and nations are rooted in nationalism and violence.

After wwii plenty of nazis who switched side were welcomed by the allies to help in the cold war

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Paperclip

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 0 points 1 year ago

now that the precedent of kicking them out has been set, what's the next line?

Just so you know that is called the slippery slope fallacy.

Just because one person did thing x and then did thing y, and think y was bad. It does not mean that everyone who does thing x inevitably is going to do thing y

You have to provide a little more evidence than the Nazis did it.