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I sure didn't. I had elaborate ideas about how we could help the Ukrainians sink the black sea fleet on our behalf. And even then I figured we'd have to subsidize their insurance. Turns out they were just going to back down lol

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[–] problematicPanther@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I don't think we need to be caring about who would win in a conventional war with Russia. We need to be worrying about who would lose in a nuclear exchange with them.

[–] kaffiene@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Everyone. Themselves included

[–] Zeppo@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago

pretty much everyone is not stupid enough to do that, because as we've known since the 60s at least, we'd all lose. Russia has nuke subs ready to do retaliation, we have a fuckton of them too, China does, random other countries like the EU and even Israel is ready to nuke the fuck out of everyone else just in case. Putin makes weak nuclear threats and he knows that "we'll nuke you!" would result in most of Russia being completely smashed, along with most of the EU and USA. The danger is some idiot feeling nihilistic and egotistical enough to try it. It would never be a reasonable policy decision by any country.