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Russia ‘systematically’ forcing Ukrainians to accept citizenship, US report finds
(www.theguardian.com)
this post was submitted on 03 Aug 2023
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Unironically yes, Putin is like Hitler in some notable ways and is in fact very bad.
Apparently, lots of users here love him.
Wonder if those groups are organic but misled or crafted by China and Russia agencies.
I've read a couple of times that Russia should be supported because USA/NATO attacks countries and stages coups in Latin America for example.
Sure, everyone should be critical of the USA but we can also have a nuanced view.
A thought experiment: What if the USA (Russia) were to invade Mexico (Ukraine)? Should Latin America (Europe) support Mexico (Ukraine) from the invasion?
The same can be applied to other continents. China & Taiwan. Turkey & Greece. Etc
The anti-US/anti-NATO sentiment turning pro-russian is much older than astrosurfing. American hegemony during the '90s/'00s made it mainstream in many European left-wing parties, especially in reaction to the Gulf and Irak wars. At the time, America was the biggest bully around, used NATO as an extension of its foreign policy, etc. etc. so it was ideologically sound to try to get Europe to build some economic and political ties elsewhere to reduce American influence.
In this new multipolar world where the US isn't the only superpower around, one must reconsider this sentiment as it clearly works against Western interests. Yet it somehow persists to this day in left-wing politics with some reactionaries who cannot get over the fact that "America bad" does not mean "Russia/China better" (the enemy of my enemy is... still my enemy, STFU).
Who says stuff like that around here?
Tankies, tankies say that
I hate tankies
Yes, very good, it applies to those as well. The continent selection in the example is a nice metaphor because there's a physical border shared
They were not the same country 30 years ago. Ukraine even had its own vote in the UN.
I almost wrote India and Pakistan as one of the examples. That's a good analogy as well
Literal whataboutism. Ridiculous.