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I don't think OP knows what they mean with this question. The top two 'serious' answers are coffee and tea, which is just "hot water with shit mixed in". Anything you drink is water with shit mixed in. Any answer that isn't "water with shit mixed in" means you die, either within months or minutes. Most answers that are "water with shit mixed in" would still kill you fairly quickly if that's all you ever drank.
I think OP knows exactly what they mean, I think if you asked a five year old they’d know what they mean.
Yet for some reason, some people are completely missing the point of a very simple question which boils down to “if you couldn’t drink regular water, what would you have instead”…
That’s not “exactly” what they mean, as the difference between what you think they’re saying and other commenters think is clearly different. Is la croix or bubbly allowed? If not then what about a hard seltzer? If those are allowed then why isn’t lemon water allowed? If those aren’t allowed then where is the line? Gatorade is seltzer water without the bubbles and with electrolytes. It’s clear that OP’s question was not well thought out, hence why so many people here have a problem with it.
And yet the main answer in this thread is “tea” which is clearly just water with leaves in it. Why is that different than water with lemons in it? Just because you didn’t have a problem with the question doesn’t mean the question doesn’t have major problems. You just didn’t notice the problems.
Garbage in, garbage out. It's a dumb question. There's no high road to be taken here.
The point of OP's question is clear. He's referring to a drink that has sensory qualities that are clearly distinct from plain water. Water with a spritz of lemon still reads as water. As a loose guideline this is like anything you'd order as "water with x" or "x water", like cucumber water. Coffee clearly doesn't fit into that category, it has sensory qualities that are very different than water with x in it.
Speak for yourself. "Cucumber water" does not have the same "sensory qualities" as water unless taste doesn't count as a sense.
LMAO What a take! Thanks for the laugh.
If I ask anyone for a glass of water, they're going to get me the same thing because they know what I mean. No one is going to get me a glass of orange juice or tea or 7up, even though that's technically also water.
You know what OP means. You're being ridiculous.
so then do you agree that they wouldn't bring you lemon water or cucumber water? clearly you didn't ask for those. but OP explicitly calls those out as 'no goofs'. so where's the line?
They obviously wouldn't, they'd just bring tap water or bottled water or something. What are you even talking about.
The whole point of this conversation is that OP is excluding drinks on some arbitrary line that no one else understands. If lemon water isn’t allowed then what is?
OP is excluding drinks that aren't regular water, this isn't complicated.
If you went to a restaurant and asked for water, what would they give you? Probably something from the tap, or a bottle, or a purified pitcher. Maybe mineral water, but that's as much additive as you're going to get. It wouldn't even be sparkling, and they're certainly not going to give you milk and smugly tell you "well TECHKNIQUELLY its water!" you damn dork. You know what OP means, you're being ridiculous.
It sounds like you agree, though.
Cucumber water is not what you'd expect when asking for water, yet OP excludes it as being invalid for being equivalent to water. So where is the line?
Tea is absolutely my non-troll answer, but how different is that really from cucumber water in this context?
Wait, fuck, I misread the OP
Now I'm the dork! 😱
This is a highly dorky thread, really 😁
If you're in other countries they most definitely will give you sparkling water if you don't clarify you want water 'sans' carbonation.
This is not true. Coffee is a mild diuretic, but the amount of water you consume along with it is way way more than the amount of water that the caffeine induces you to pee out.
I'm curious how far you can take this. Can you drink only espressos and still get hydrated?
Quick someone call Bear Grylls or someone.
Then i don't understand your argument. There's nothing stopping you from drinking as much coffee as you need to get your water
Dude. Yes they have some small diuretic effects but tea and coffee are overwhelmingly hydrating. It's just not a good idea to mainline that much caffeine for heart reasons.
Sure, added that note in an edit. There's no answer here that doesn't result in your early death.