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[–] Jolteon@lemmy.zip 16 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Haven't they also been trying to put back doors into everything for the last decade?

[–] themurphy@lemmy.ml 18 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

EU is democratic, which also means everyone can propose a law. Never have EU put a backdoor into anything, but its true that there have been law proposals for it.

Never voted through.

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world -3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

EU is not democratic. EU's ruling entities are formed by governments of member countries. Which are supposedly democratic.

And about never voted through - sometimes putting pressure is enough.

[–] unautrenom@jlai.lu 6 points 2 days ago (2 children)

EU Commission and Council are indeed not elected directly, but the Parliement who propose and vote laws is. The way it works is similar to a parlementary republic (where coalitions of parties that includes >50% of MEPs make a governement together).

It's as democratic as democratic gets on that scale.

[–] ctrl_alt_esc@lemmy.ml -4 points 2 days ago

The EU isn't democratic. As opposed to national parliamentary democracies, the European parliament has barely any power compared to the commission which has no democratic legitimacy.

It's as democratic as democratic gets on that scale.

That is also completely false. There are numerous proposals that would make the EU more democratic, but that's obviously against the interest of the incumbent neoliberal elite.

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world -1 points 2 days ago

It’s as democratic as democratic gets on that scale.

That's kinda sad.