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[–] Bloomcole@lemm.ee 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It creates hate for jews by hiding behind them and speaking in their name.
It is not a hot take.
You will probably find the following equally true statement even hotter: zionism is fascism.
Have some fun: https://zionism.wtf/

[–] jsomae@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I find "zionism is fascism" pretty sensible. Hot in the public eye, perhaps, but not such a hot take for me personally.

But your same argument goes:

  • White supremacy is racist against white people (because it speaks in their name)
  • Nazism are racist against so-called Aryans (because it speaks in their name)
  • Male chauvinism is sexist against men (after all, it doesn't represent all men)
  • Pro-choice is anti-feminist; after all, it misrepresents what pro-life women find moral.

I actually do agree insofar as there is a second-order effect that causes harm for some jews -- the Star of David is less popular than ever, now! What a shame Israel appropriated it for its flag! -- but I just can't bring myself to agree with the basic premise here. If your movement elevates one type of person over another, you can't be said to be against that type of person, even if you're scoring own-goals. In that case, you're just failing despite your intentions.

[–] Bloomcole@lemm.ee 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I said nor implied any of those things.

[–] jsomae@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago

Yes I know. They are absurd sentiments. I'm observing that the same rationale behind "zionism is antisemitic" would also support those absurd ideas.