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I'm not talking about not using signal, but instead referring to drivers who turn off the signal so quickly.

Example when changing lane: Flick Signal on - Lane change - Signal off, literally 2 seconds and the car is not even moving fast to change lane.

Another example for when making a turn: 0.5 second to do Signal On - Turn - Signal off...

I swear on both of my nuts that these drivers arent even looking at the mirrors (any mirrors) or looking over their shoulders.

If you happen to do this, no offense but why? Is it to show the cops you did signal? Or there exists a signalphobia , i.e. the tick tock sound can annoy passengers?/

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[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 10 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I disagree, someone not seeing your signal and action is still your problem. The percentage of legal blame will possibly be more on them if you can prove you did signal, but it is every driver's duty to ensure their movement does not cause a problem for others, right-of-way or not. It it's deemed preventable, it's a driver's fault to some degree. That's why it's called defensive driving.

[–] RedEyeFlightControl@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago (2 children)

You can disagree with it, but the DOT states that you need to maintain a minimum distance between you and the vehicle in front of you, in respect to reaction time.

As a motorist, you fulfill this duty by indicating your intent with your turn signal. As long as there is clearance and safe distance, any remaining responsibility is on the individual who is supposed to be paying attention to what is in front of them based on DOT standards.

It's pretty clear cut.

This is of course no excuse for poor driving, cutting off, or unsafe lane changes. But if you are following the rules of the road, using your signal, and maintaining safe distance, there isn't much you can do about the distracted person behind you. And that's not your problem.

https://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/safety/driver-safety/cmv-driving-tips-following-too-closely

[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 10 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Your point is valid legally. And in many cases you're right, your options are limited if someone isn't driving correctly near you. However I still disagree on the idea that there's not much you can do to avoid situations if you stay aware of potential problems. That's where defensive driving comes in - if I see someone is following too close in traffic or isn't slowing even though I'm signalling a turn, I'm not going to take a position of "well, I've done all my legal required actions, it's out of my hands." I'm going to use the outs that I've already got in my head to avoid them hitting me, whether that be changing my speed to space out the reaction time for them, abandoning the turn or move, or going off the road.

Well of course. You should know what's behind you, so you are not cutting anyone off. That doesn't mean you are accountable for whatever is going on behind you. Generally, don't be a dick, and make sure there's room. That's common sense.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

You can disagree with it, but the DOT states that you need to maintain a minimum distance between you and the vehicle in front of you, in respect to reaction time.

As if everybody doesn't already know that.
You can maintain distance for instance because you are standing still, or rolling slowly towards a cross with traffic. And see the distance to the car in front you despite it isn't the only focus of attention. Also in bright conditions the blinker is not as visible as in darker conditions.

You should NEVER stop blinking before the turning maneuver is finished. 3 times blinking does that, and in fact should be illegal IMO. It makes drivers lazy about their blinkers. My own car has it, and I hate it. It's a moronic feature.

If you stop blinking even before you started to turn, it's very confusing. Did you change your mind, or do you just suck at signalling?

[–] RedEyeFlightControl@lemmy.world 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

You should NEVER stop blinking before the turning maneuver is finished.

We're talking about two different things here. Lane change indication usually runs for 3 blinks. That's standard on most all vehicles. Turn signal stays on until the wheel resets it when returning to origin.

As a driver, your primary responsibility is focus on the things in front of you. If you can't do that, you shouldn't be behind the wheel. Likewise, if you can't see signals other cars are making, you probably shouldn't be behind the wheel.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago

For lane change it's ok.

what about cases where there is a left turn and an immediate right turn? is the correct way to signal not left blinker until you have almost completed it then right blinker?