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[–] AdrianTheFrog@lemmy.world 15 points 6 days ago (1 children)

As much as I don't like the Chinese government for all the censorship and etc, they do really know what they're doing in terms of managing the economy and the infrastructure it relies on, as far as I can tell. Including their education system, it's fairly shocking how many of the top engineering and CS colleges are in China.

[–] MellowYellow13@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

Censorship? Its rich talking censorship in China when America is one of the most propagandized nations in existence. If I was China I would also censor the fuck out of America.

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 17 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Censorship and propaganda are different

What a weird comment to make

[–] hark@lemmy.world 10 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Both are tools to control the narrative.

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)

But you can just talk about censorship in America

[–] hark@lemmy.world 9 points 6 days ago

There different forms of censorship. Flooding the dominant platforms with the official message to obscure opposition opinions, shadowbanning posts, etc are softer forms of censorship but are still censorship. The rulership class is fine with people voicing their opinions if they feel it doesn't threaten their power. They will crack down harder when that feeling changes.

[–] MellowYellow13@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

America has both, so wtf you on about?

[–] crawlspace@lemm.ee 0 points 5 days ago (1 children)

And so does China? Both are bad, it doesn't have to be either or.

[–] MellowYellow13@lemmy.world -1 points 5 days ago

Exactly, so reply to the ones acting like America doesnt, not me

[–] Bronzie@sh.itjust.works 13 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

How does the US being full of propaganda change the fact that China has a lot of censorship?

Both can be true at the same time, you know...

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago

Its almost like hegemonies and individual freedoms can be at odds with each other no matter what country it is.

[–] MellowYellow13@lemmy.world 0 points 6 days ago (1 children)

How does the US having propaganda mean they dont have censorship? America literally has a fuckton of both.

[–] crawlspace@lemm.ee 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Right and so does China, there's nothing to defend here.

[–] MellowYellow13@lemmy.world 0 points 5 days ago

Yes, he is acting like America doesnt have censorship