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[โ€“] AFC1886VCC@reddthat.com 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Kick the bastard misogynist influencers off social media platforms and educate young men on having healthy relationships with others starting from school age. Or we can try the tired old idea of debating fascists and hope they act in good faith and defeat them with our kindly words.

underlying systemic issues that cause either of those problems

Systemic issues is a very vague concept. What causes young men to latch onto misogyny. Poverty? Mental health issues? Lack of meaningful employment options? Or do we circle back to blaming it on women and feminism again?

1000% yes let's do something about it materially. We aren't nearly tough enough on this poison infecting men's minds.

[โ€“] Murple_27@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 week ago

Kick the bastard misogynist influencers off social media platforms and educate young men on having healthy relationships with others starting from school age.

Correct.

Systemic issues is a very vague concept. What causes young men to latch onto misogyny. Poverty? Mental health issues? Lack of meaningful employment options? Or do we circle back to blaming it on women and feminism again?

The two fundamental things that drive misogyny among men are the intensity of inequality between men themselves (more specifically, the degree to which men with property can assert themselves over men without property), and the degree to which men can be integrated into some kind of productive social relationship with other men & women.

Very few men actually start with the premise that "Women are Dishwashers." That's a political claim that they arrive at after consistently losing out to other more socially, or economically successful men, and subsequently internalizing their position in that dynamic as immutable natural law.