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For real why is he white with blue eyes lmao white-pharaoh

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[–] Muinteoir_Saoirse@hexbear.net 46 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (9 children)

It's probably because in real life Ramesses II had red hair, and a lot of white people seem to have a hard time imagining someone with natural red hair having dark skin and eyes, even though that was sort of a big deal for Egyptians at the time.

That being said, fair skin and light coloured eyes are not an entirely uncommon trait for the area (North Africa and West Asia, Egypt's sphere of influence at the time). Not likely they were traits possessed by Ramesses, though a very questionable race science examination tried to assert he was a fair-skinned man of Amazigh (Berber) descent in the 70s, which is probably where they drew this idea of him from. Though they nailed his big beautiful nose.

Edit: On further inspection it sort of looks like they just made a beefier blue-eyed version of Yul Brynner from the Ten Commandments

[–] eyyImwalkin@hexbear.net 20 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (4 children)

It's probably because in real life Ramesses II had red hair

Rihanna also has red hair

The red hair on Ramses was never investigated for dye. This is because Egypt is EXTREMELY secretive with its mummies. What we do know is that his paternal DNA was pure West African (Not even East or North African).

To give you an idea of how secretive Egypt is, there are only 3 published Ancient Egyptian genomes available to the public. (At least back in 2021, idk if more were made available recently)

We literally have more published genetic data from 40,000 year old China than we do from 4,000 year old ancient Egypt, filled to the brim with perfectly preserved mummies. We have almost 100 published genomes from 30,000 year old Northwest Eurasia. Only 3 from Egypt.

[–] Lemister@hexbear.net 15 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

In many african cultures they use red clay to colour their hair, like several people of nearby countries, which may have "inspired" ancient Egyptians.

[–] eyyImwalkin@hexbear.net 12 points 3 weeks ago

Definitely possible. He also may have been naturally red haired. Maybe even red haired and dark skinned. We'll never know until genomes are released under the supervision of international teams of scientists

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