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[–] BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I've never hosted anything outside my home. Aren't there services that are basically 3rd party Docker hosts for which you could run some kind of email container? Preferably not one of the big three, otherwise why leave Gmail?

[–] jeena@piefed.jeena.net 6 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Specifically email is not difficult to host because of the technical burdens but because of the black and whitelisting of the big players. Often your server IP address happens to be put on a black list without your fault and then you can write an email to Microsoft or Google and say 'pretty please remove my IP address from your blacklist' and they just don't answer because they're swamped with requests like that and they need to check each one manually or something and then suddenly you can't email to 80% of the email addresses in the world for months.

[–] BendingHawk@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 hour ago

Spot on! This is what got me to stop trying to self-host email. I would even get my IP address removed from blocklists only to find Google not updating with the removal and my IP being blocked from interacting with Gmail 🤦

[–] hperrin@lemmy.ca 2 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (1 children)

Yeah, you can rent a virtual host and set up an email server on it. You gotta make sure port 25 is unblocked, which sometimes requires payment (Azure charges for it). Otherwise, you’d wanna look for a specific email hosting provider. You also would need to make sure the public IP you get isn’t on any spam lists, which can be a huge pain in the butt.

On my service, I specifically don’t use any spam lists that you have to pay to get off of, but a lot of places do (like Apple iCloud).

[–] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 5 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Self hosting email is, unfortunately, a fucking nightmare because you have to jump through a million hoops to get your server off of all the spam filters it will automatically wind up on.

[–] hperrin@lemmy.ca 3 points 18 hours ago

As someone who runs an email service, you are 1,000,000% right. I think I had literal nightmares about it.