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France and Germany, in joint collaboration, have developed a Google Docs alternative - and its awesome! (Netherlands are currently onboarded) (mastodon.social)
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[–] utopiah@lemmy.world 12 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

Nice, DINUM is doing a lot so great to see go beyond with supra national collaboration!

I'm using NextCloud (Germany and international open source community) hosted on Webo (Slovenia) with data centers in Germany and Helsinki (so I bet on Hetzner). I'm happy with it but I'll keep on eye on https://github.com/suitenumerique/docs

[–] utopiah@lemmy.world 2 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

I'd be curious, they use Minio which puts S3 first. Does it mean Docs (the official instance) is relying on AWS?

If so IMHO that's not a great default EU sovereignty.

[–] hoppolito@mander.xyz 4 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

I would assume (without having looked at the codebase) that if they use minio they are, by default, not reliant on AWS.

Minio is its own S3 implementation which can be self-hosted.

S3, being an AWS protocol originally has AWS environment variables all over the place but that does not necessarily mean a reliance on the service. Rather, they rely on the protocol and you bring your own S3 endpoint I would assume. be that minio, hetzner or what have you.

[–] utopiah@lemmy.world 1 points 13 hours ago

Thanks for the clarification, that makes sense, closing the issue then.

[–] utopiah@lemmy.world 1 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

FWIW if others are curious https://github.com/suitenumerique/docs/issues/755 opened an issue

[–] cmhe@lemmy.world 1 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

I thought that MinIO is a Open-Source S3 implementation, which you can just install on your own system. S3 is a "protocol" here IIUC.

Is your complaint that they are using the S3 protocol, because it was invented and is controlled by AWS?

Or that some services might use it without MinIO, directly on AWS?

[–] utopiah@lemmy.world 1 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

Seems I misunderstood, if it's solely the branding (of that implementation) then it's fine. I thought they relied on AWS itself.