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Summary

Vladimir Putin responded to Ukraine’s US-backed ceasefire proposal by imposing strict conditions, including a halt to Kyiv’s military aid and mobilization, while continuing Russia’s own rearmament.

His calculated stance prolongs negotiations without outright rejecting Donald Trump’s initiative, which seeks to end the war while pressuring Ukraine.

Putin also demands Ukraine’s demilitarization, exclusion from NATO, and recognition of Russian territorial claims.

Trump, with limited leverage, may shift toward aligning with Putin’s terms. Meanwhile, Ukraine fears the ceasefire could allow Russia to regroup and intensify its offensive.

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[–] Docus@lemmy.world 20 points 16 hours ago (4 children)

Trump does not have the cards to force a peace deal, or the skills to negotiate one. Ukraine and Putin are simply too far apart to meet in the middle.

[–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 8 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

Only a cuck would concede anything to Putin, and Trump is king cuck.

[–] PixelatedSaturn@lemmy.world 2 points 12 hours ago

Thats completely naive. Reality doesn't work like memes. People are dying, lives are being destroyed.

[–] cool@lemmings.world -3 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Ukraine doesn't have much a choice because they're losing the war.

Part of losing a war is making concessions with the victor. Sorry you've been so propagandized to believe that it's impossible for Ukraine to lose.

[–] dzso@lemmy.world 5 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

The war is still being fought. No one has won.

[–] cool@lemmings.world -2 points 11 hours ago
[–] PixelatedSaturn@lemmy.world 4 points 12 hours ago

Definitely not skills. But both sides in the war want to have a strong start to the negotiation. Ukraine might give up Crimea officially for NATO membership. Russia will do anything that will look like they won.

[–] cool@lemmings.world -3 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

I disagree. Ukraine is currently getting routed and they will announce their surrender this year if the US continues to withhold support.

The thing about war is that each death makes it harder to fight back. That results in more deaths, which makes it even harder, and hopefully you get the idea if you're not a useful idiot (sorry this last part needs to be said, but there's a lot of useful idiots running around these days.)

[–] bigschnitz@lemmy.world 4 points 12 hours ago

A country can be losing but in an existential conflict seem to rarely outright surrender. Ukraines position, while dire, is far stronger than the talibans after the US invasion of Iraq. 20 years later, they were still fighting and ultimately prevailed.

In my mind, this Inevitably is in ukraines future if allies don't continue to materially support Ukraine - either way the Russian occupation ultimately fails, the question is does Ukraine defend itself and remain a sovereign nation or do they fall and an insurgency later force it's reinstatement.