this post was submitted on 28 Jul 2023
171 points (95.7% liked)

Technology

59243 readers
3280 users here now

This is a most excellent place for technology news and articles.


Our Rules


  1. Follow the lemmy.world rules.
  2. Only tech related content.
  3. Be excellent to each another!
  4. Mod approved content bots can post up to 10 articles per day.
  5. Threads asking for personal tech support may be deleted.
  6. Politics threads may be removed.
  7. No memes allowed as posts, OK to post as comments.
  8. Only approved bots from the list below, to ask if your bot can be added please contact us.
  9. Check for duplicates before posting, duplicates may be removed

Approved Bots


founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] BombOmOm@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

anyone wealthy enough to buy a car can use it for free

Anyone with a car is paying additional taxes for fuel and car registration.

[–] Nurgle@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Those typically don’t cover all of transportation dept budgets, and fuel taxes are on the permanent decline.

[–] BombOmOm@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Ticket prices don't cover the full costs of train infrastructure and maintenance either. The point is the statement "anyone wealthy enough to buy a car can use it for free" is demonstrably false and using a demonstrably false statement as a counterpoint is...inadvisable.

[–] Nurgle@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Felt there was an implicit understanding that cars need gas, but yeah that’s fair.

[–] elvis_depresley@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I should have specified “… can use the infrastructure for free”. The car will cost money, but you can only use it because everyone subsidises roads, bridges, parking and much more.

[–] BombOmOm@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Car drivers are demonstrably paying taxes for the ability to drive on public roads, they are demonstrably not "using the infrastructure for free". They pay taxes for every mile they drive on a public road. Gas is taxed and cars have regular registration taxes.

[–] Dark_Blade@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Not to mention, roads are also used for logistics.

fuel tax in the US is a joke, in Europe it’s higher but still doesn’t cover anywhere near the infrastructure cost.

This video illustrates it nicely.