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uBlock Origin is no longer available in the Chrome store (chromewebstore.google.com)

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[–] ragebutt@lemmy.dbzer0.com 84 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Missing critical features:

Filter lists only update with the extension, you cannot update them dynamically

No making your own filters and thus no element picker for blocking annoyances on a webpage (a feature so good apple literally baked it into safari)

No support for external lists (which means if you back up your own filters into a list you cannot easily reimport)

No changing behavior on a per site basis

A number of other features as well that are more strictly power user features but still really handy like dynamic filtering and strict blocking domains.

If you have the option stop using chrome and edge, they are some of the worst options you could choose. Even outside of adblock and manifest v3 chrome is horrendous for data harvesting bullshit and edge isn’t great. If you don’t have the option because of an overzealous it dept or whatever and are forced to use it ubo lite is your best option probably and my heart goes out to you

[–] Pamasich@kbin.earth 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I'm a bit confused as an Adblock Plus user, why did the ublock dev drop those features? ABP uses manifest v3 too and it still has all of those. So it's clearly not about them being impossible.

[–] skulblaka@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

According to Adblock Plus' own blog post about the matter:

With Manifest V3, Adblock Plus is required to limit how many filter lists we have available to users. We’ll have the ability to offer up to 100 pre-installed filter lists that you can turn on and off depending on your preferences. From these available filter lists, users will be able to choose 50 that they can keep turned on at any given time. We’re working to ensure that popular filter lists our users love are supported by us, and that any updates to these lists are brought to you by frequent new releases of the extension. This does mean that initially, our users will no longer be able to subscribe to any filter lists outside of what is provided in the extension.

Re: Element Blocker:

The Block element feature will continue to exist even after the Manifest V3 version of Adblock Plus officially launches. Manifest V3 does require us to adhere to limits with filter lists and user created blocking rules, so there’s a chance things may change in the future. However, we don’t have details quite yet! If you have any more questions about this or anything else, our support team are the best people to ask at support@adblockplus.org.

So this says to me that baked in filter lists are now required, custom lists will not work, and Block Element is probably functioning illegally if it is indeed still functioning though that may change in the future in either direction.

Changing blocker behavior on specific sites is the only thing in that list that I see UBO disallow and ABP not mention at all. Not sure why that was changed.

[–] Pamasich@kbin.earth 3 points 1 day ago

I've read that too, but I still have the ability to add a custom list. It says initially, so I assumed they got around that issue by now, considering it isn't the case for me.

I technically use Edge which afaik still allows MV2, so in case the extension somehow implements both and defaults to mv2 if available, I've decided to install Chrome and get ABP there to test. Even in Chrome, the ability to add a custom list is still there. As are all the other features, like manual updating. With custom list I mean both the ability to add a list per URL, and the ability to add custom arbitrary rules directly.

I don't really see why element blocking wouldn't be possible or allowed under Manifest v3. Like, it's entirely client-side. Manifest never comes into play there.

What I can imagine is that custom lists might work that same way too, removing the ads from the page after they've already loaded rather than blocking the web request directly which is afaik how adblocking works in mv2. I can't tell you if that's the case or not.

[–] ripcord@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Lol who downvoted this

[–] Pamasich@kbin.earth 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Probably because of the Adblock Plus mention. It's mired in controversy because of its acceptable ads toggle and requiring ad giants to pay for it. So I can imagine people downvoting comments that put it in a positive light compared to other adblockers.

[–] ripcord@lemmy.world 2 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

You may be right, but whether you hate ABP specifically or not should be irrelevant to the question. The question was why other extensions - like Adblock - can have those feature but uBlock Lite can't. What's different?

I'd also like to know, personally. I'd wondered the same thing.