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Mark Carney has been elected as the new Liberal Party leader in Canada with a commanding 85.9% of votes, following Justin Trudeau's resignation.

The former Bank of Canada and Bank of England governor will become Canada's 24th prime minister within days.

In his victory speech, Carney took aim at both Donald Trump and Canadian Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre, vowing to maintain Canada's tariffs until Americans "show us respect."

Carney, despite never holding elected office, enters leadership as Canada faces trade tensions with the U.S. and a potential early election. He must secure a parliamentary seat and finalize the transition with Trudeau.

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[–] meowmeowbeanz@sopuli.xyz 1 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Comparing Carney to PP is a weak deflection. Leadership isn’t about who’s less flawed; it’s about who can effectively govern. Carney’s economic expertise is undeniable, but public trust and coalition-building are critical, especially in a fractured political landscape. His past roles lacked the messy compromises of real politics, leaving doubts about his adaptability and vision.

Your critique of PP is speculative and irrelevant to the discussion at hand. Whether PP has clearance or plays political games doesn’t absolve Carney of his own deficiencies. This strawman argument shifts focus away from evaluating Carney’s ability to lead, which remains the core issue.

Deflection doesn’t strengthen your case—it weakens it. Leadership demands scrutiny, not comparisons.

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[–] vilmos@lemm.ee 2 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

I really don't understand the difference...

Why is PP's past "speculative and irrelevant" but Carney's isn't? If anything, we've seen PP be lackluster and ineffective in Parliament while any comments about Carney are speculative.

And during an election where we have limited options comparison is necessary and unavoidable

[–] meowmeowbeanz@sopuli.xyz 1 points 13 hours ago

Vilmos, the distinction lies in the nature of speculation. Criticisms of PP stem from his documented failures—lack of coalition-building, refusal to obtain security clearance, and divisive rhetoric. These are observable patterns that directly impact his ability to govern. In contrast, concerns about Carney focus on his untested adaptability and vision in the political realm, which are speculative because he hasn’t held elected office or navigated the complexities of public trust and compromise.

Your point about limited options during an election is valid, but comparison alone doesn’t absolve scrutiny. Settling for “better than PP” risks ignoring whether Carney can lead effectively in a fractured landscape. Leadership demands foresight and adaptability—not just avoiding the worst-case scenario.

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