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[–] Excrubulent@slrpnk.net 3 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Just wait till he walks off negligently ignoring the child. Boom, no more human shield.

[–] Slartibartfast@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

I'm all for the hate musk train but that one was manufactured bullshit and actually opened my eyes at how manipulated I had allowed myself to become.

In the whole clip he comes back for little X and it's a total nothing burger. Obviously he's a psycho and that kid is fucked but leaving him to navigate some stairs for 2 seconds is irrelevant. I guess maybe Americans are more helicopter and precious about kids but in the rest of the world we let them get on with it and that is totally fine.

[–] Excrubulent@slrpnk.net 4 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

I've watched it too. The image it paints is of someone who has no concept of how children actually behave, presumably because he's never had a reason to spend time with them before.

It's not about needing to helicopter over the kid. If I was with a friend and we were walking somewhere together I'd pay more attention to them than that. That kind of full back turned walk away when you clearly expect to be kept up with is disrespectful unless you are actually intending to walk away and leave the person. The fact he felt the need to turn back and hurry the kid along shows he just gave no consideration to the kid.

He does it multiple times too. Walk away; hurry up; walk away; hurry up. This guy is herding this kid he just doesn't know how to do it, like he expects a retinue or something.

Like you can read it differently if you want but I don't agree with your assessment. The body language is pretty clear to me.

[–] Slartibartfast@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Yea he obviously doesn't know much about parenting. Also probably doesn't have much empathy or mental space he's willing to commit.

However that is pretty damn normal. I see hundreds of parents and kids each year. The ones who doit properly are few and far between.

The point is why the hell are we talking about it? He's literally orchestrating a fascist takeover and indirectly killing thousands, why are we wasting our energy on outrage at a minor shitty behaviour than most parents are guilty of?

[–] Excrubulent@slrpnk.net 0 points 21 minutes ago* (last edited 21 minutes ago) (1 children)

Because it was on video, it's easy to digest, and it reveals something about his character. It especially makes clearer his reasons for dragging the kid everywhere he goes; it's clearly not because he gives a shit about the kid. It makes the abuse a lot more obvious, and detracts from the humanising effect of the kid.

Like if you thought the issue was that people thought the moment had some serious material impact on the kid's wellbeing, or that he actually lost his kid in a crowd or something, then I think you just missed the point of it entirely.

Also if you thought context makes it better, the people who were physically there and were presumably supporters of him said "you're leaving your kid", so it's like... obviously an issue, by admission of people who wouldn't want to admit it.

Like you could ask the same thing about his Nazi salute. We focused on it because it tells us something about who he is. The exact posture of his hand in that moment didn't physically hurt anyone, it's about the message it sends, and that message is going to hurt people.

And yes bad parents are everywhere, and Elon is unsurprisingly among them.

This is super basic stuff.

[–] Slartibartfast@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 13 minutes ago* (last edited 8 minutes ago) (1 children)

You were doing so well before the last line which comes over as haughty and suggests you've not actually got any solid arguments. "It's like this because".

Anyway I disagree, it was a nothing burger and I object to your nonsensical conflation of that with a seig heil. I'd call that a Reddit moment but this place has a different name.

That'll do me for this conversation, we disagree and that's fine. Have a nice day.

[–] Excrubulent@slrpnk.net 1 points 3 minutes ago* (last edited 3 minutes ago)

At a certain point I realised I was explaining the super obvious, and I wanted to point that out.

If it offended you, sit with that feeling. Maybe it's trying to tell you something.