There are no nukes in the Baltic states (they are already NATO members but Ukraine isn't), why would they put nukes in the Ukraine? Plus the US and Russia could already hit anywhere in the world already. So, it's a made up threat to try to justify an invasion.

Slogans can have different meanings depending on context. If Ukraine was invading other countries, then Glory to Ukraine might sound like they are superior but if they are defending it sounds like they will be victorious. Plus, Slava Ukraine sounds more like a the Soviet union slogan "glory to the motherland."

Man, if you think that historical context are excuses. You could never read a history book then... Which might actually explain a lot...

Putin did break the treaty he invaded the boarders of Ukraine. You can't illegally invade a country then have an illegal vote to declare a breakaway regions under an military occupation.

Stalin defeated the Nazis then proceeded to kill millions of people... And you wonder why so many former Soviet countries want to join NATO for protection. One monster replaced with another.

[–] Blursty@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You’re the one making claims of laws that are responsible for ethnic cleansing, so you should be able to provide some examples.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/apr/25/ukraine-adopts-law-enforcing-use-of-ukrainian-in-public-life

https://twitter.com/Kanthan2030/status/1632366929745940480

https://twitter.com/RueDaungier/status/1650503466706452484

There are no nukes in the Baltic states (they are already NATO members but Ukraine isn’t), why would they put nukes in the Ukraine?

The point is not to put nukes there, the point is to threaten Russia to provoke a war. It worked. Why expand NATO at all? The USSR doesn't exist anymore, it should have been dismantled.

Slogans can have different meanings depending on context.

Nazi slogans are Nazi slogans regardless of context. If you start chanting "Sieg Heil"do you really think the excuse that you haven't invaded anywhere is going to wash? Besides, Ukraine invaded the breakaway republics and killed thousands, including civilians while chanting these Nazi slogans.

Putin did break the treaty he invaded the boarders of Ukraine. You can’t illegally invade a country then have an illegal vote to declare a breakaway regions under an military occupation.

Stalin defeated the Nazis then proceeded to kill millions of people

Stalin was by no means perfect but this millions of people crap is just ahistorical yank propaganda that you've been brainwashed with.

[–] GrimChaos@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So name a law BEFORE the invasion (2014)... Remember you are trying to justify the illegal invasion. It looks like the stuff you list was in response to the invasion.

Let me think... Why would countries want to join NATO. could it be Moldova, Georgia, Abkhazia... Seems like there is a need. Seems like Putin is trying to rebuild the USSR.

Okay, the Soviets used Nazi slogans, got it

Wow, Stalin not that bad? He's not as bad as Hitler but still close. Stalin was just over a longer span of time. To the point the Soviet union even tried to De-Stalinization the Soviet union. My parents grew up under Soviet oppression and it was not a good time.

[–] Blursty@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 1 year ago

Name a law before the Nazi coup overthrew Ukraine and started the ethnic cleansing. Well done, you've managed to move the goalposts so far that nothing makes sense anymore. Russia was invited into the independent Autonomous Republic of Crimea by its leadership in order to protect it from the Nazis after the American coup.

Let me think… Why would countries want to join NATO.

The vast majority of actual citizens of countries all over Europe are opposed to America's war in Ukraine, as opposed to their American influenced leadership.

Wow, Stalin not that bad? He’s not as bad as Hitler but still close.

This is just American propaganda. Your parents' experience is at odds with most peoples'. Almost everyone who lived in the USSR preferred it to what came after.